this is rediculous. you guys in congress know that the country cannot remain as a stable and nice place if he is not impeached. you can’t just let a president break the law constantly. impeach. impeach. impeach.
What congress? The Republicans won’t even let the house meet anymore
Yeah because he’ll totally spend time in prison if they’re released.
Obviously Trump and his team thinks so.
I’m starting to think he illegally misappropriated those funds and now literally can’t use them for their intended purpose cuz he’s broke.
In Italy if a politician pulled something like this, the parliament and all the party headquarters in the country would be set on fire
Stop paying your taxes. Withhold that money, until the government starts functioning again and following legal orders.
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Art of the Deal
Literally anyone with a brain knows the GOP and especially Trump is starving them whether they vote red or blue. Maybe all these red people need to lose their cable tv and just watch the de-programming start. Without their confirmation bias Fox/Oan/NM they become normal(ish) again.
It’s funny when you consider those networks could just do the same shit over broadcast tv but choose not to for some reason
Release the Epstein files PEDOnald!!
Yeah, the government needs to be open and functioning for SNAP to work. Right? All i hear is that SNAP isnt going to work until the government is open, and that is up to the democratics to open it? What am I missing?
Ive lived in the hood, and everyone there was selling their SNAP. I did.
Just some 1st hand knowledge for you posers.
P.s. I know some people do legit use though too, I did that too. It just is what it is.
SNAP is delegated to the states and can function in a federal shutdown.
People will find ways to game any welfare system, but that’s not a reason to look down on them. We have so much fucking money in this country, and billionaires and corporations can just fly to fucking France to eat dinner on a whim, but criticizing the people in the lowest rungs for the reality they’re in… meh
The Democrats are no more keeping the gov’t shut down than the Republicans.
Ok… but no… its up to the democrats. What are you even talking about?
I’m talking about a system of government with two entirely separate parties in charge, and one where the Republicans hold most of the actual power, until yesterday, so I don’t really follow how it could possibly be just the Dems fault.
What I do follow is that the Republicans lie about every possible thing they can, no matter how big or small, or what the situation is, or what’s been proven, like, 35 seconds earlier.
Your first sentence is wrong. There your question is answered. Snap is pre-funded. Meaning when the government is shut down, there is still money for Snap to pay its employees and administer benefits.
Now that you k ow that do you want to rethink your other questions?
LOL what?
So, it’s either healthcare subsidies or food? You can’t have both? Even though we had both before Republicans took it all away, so they could give tax breaks to Trump’s rich donors?
Fuck these assholes.
It’s also a bit of PR nightmare for the GOP. Trump defying the court order shifts the blame back onto them.
In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized. In the magasphere this situation seems to be framed as the GOP stepping up to fight against free health care for illegal immigrants which seems divorced from reality.
It’s a cult
Reality genuinely doesn’t play any part in things with them
In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized.
It’s not an accident…
When Nixon resigned, Roger Ailes wrote a memo that accidentally ended up in the icon presidential library:
The memo – called, simply enough, “A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News” – is included in a 318-page cache of documents detailing [Roger] Ailes’ work for both the Nixon and George H.W. Bush administrations that we obtained from the Nixon and Bush presidential libraries. Through his firms REA Productions and Ailes Communications, Inc., Ailes served as paid consultant to both presidents in the 1970s and 1990s, offering detailed and shrewd advice ranging from what ties to wear to how to keep the pressure up on Saddam Hussein in the run-up to the first Gulf War.
The memo explains why television was the way to go:
Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/
They knew that if they owned the media, they could control what people thought, and no republican president would ever have to resign due to public outcry again.
Luckily, he was held back by federal regulations, until a good ole capitalist from Arkansas got elected and decided anyone should be able to own media in America:
The stated intention of the law was to “let anyone enter any communications business – to let any communications business compete in any market against any other.”[5] In practice, it gave way to one of the largest consolidations of the telecommunications sector in history - as such, it is often described as an attempt to deregulate the American broadcasting and telecommunications markets due to technological convergence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
After that it was gloves off and the billionaires gobbled up every aspect of the “news” industry and maintain almost exclusive control over what a majority of Americans hear.
TBF, the problem with media was well underway before Clinton came along. The Fairness Doctrine being done away with under Ronnie Raygun opened the floodgates.
Trump is posting on social media that Biden’s administration was just giving SNAP benefits away. His idiot supporters are gonna believe it.
Yeah, but most of the hardcore maga base is going to die within 10 years, but waaaayyyy sooner if Trump keeps cutting snap and Medicaid. Then you’ll be left with the few capable white supremacist MAGAts, and a lot of out of shape brainwashed dipshits who will either scatter into the shadows or fall in line and shut the fuck up real quick
I truly think that a good amount of these people could be personally executed by Trump shooting them in the chest, and while Trump says “I know what you are and I hate you” they would lay there dying and say “Oh it’s okay, I know you didn’t mean that. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. I still support what you’re doing overall.” or possibly even “I guess I do deserve to die if you say so”.
Now I will say the majority of even the maga team is not this nuts. But some definitely are. Many humans have unfortunately had the privilege to never interact with the kind of person who will truly never change their mind. I’ve known one or two, and it’s a really mind-expanding experience, almost like you’re meeting an extraterrestrial. It’s hard for people who haven’t seen them to believe 👽 lol
I think by saying he’ll defy a court order, he’s letting the supreme court know they have to okay whatever bullshit he comes up with. Otherwise, it will become obvious that they can’t do jack shit.
Was the order even appealed or did he just tell them to pound sand?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/07/white-house-snap-november-court-order
I guess they don’t even have to bother.
No idea. They always take their time, delay, and appeal so I just assume that’ll be the eventual resolution.
it was always on them, but more never hurts.
If the government can’t afford to feed and heal the people, they shouldn’t be building a ballroom. I was taught in school to pay for your needs before your wants.
But the ballroom is all being paid for by the people who are hoping Trump will do them favors. So, that makes it none of our business.
In the end it’s going to be neither. Because once you give way on one front, it is proven that you’ll negotiate.
This is literally how we got here. Dems capitulated over and over during Obama’s presidency to keep programs like SNAP going, and Republicans have run the same strategy ever since. Stonewall everything as long as you can, and blame it on the other side the entire time. And people eat it up every single time.
I feel like dems should add to their list of demands- if the Rs dont agree to reverse course on Healthcare now, dems will not agree to reopen until all missed snap benefits are paid back retroactively- if it goes another week, they will not vote until ice is fully refunded, etc
Use open secrets dort org. You can find the shitbags in your area that gave 5k, 10k, 20k, 50k+ directly to the trump campaign. Not a general Republican PAC, but directly to HIS campaign. You can then cross reference those names with county property records. Then you can engage in civil political discourse with those people
Be thankful you get a choice.
We didn’t get a choice about bailing out Argentina. Or soybean sales to China.
“sound the alarm”, horseshit. Just file the articles of impeachment and make the senators vote openly that they believe the executive branch ignoring a court order is okay. Senators should have to openly say it’s okay to not remove someone for not following the rules /“laws” of the republic. Then as Trump keeps fucking everything up the Senators will have to realize either A. They are willing to surrender their job/career/ country to back a tryant,or B. They need to jump ship.
If its fine to not listen to the courts, then there is no reason for congress to exist. Their job is to write legislation that the courts ensure breakers of that legislation are punished.
They should have done so on many other occasions, but their failures are only adding up.
File the articles of impeachment over every single illegal action he is undertaking. Make it so congress is constantly dealing with impeachment hearing every second of every day till he is dead and buried.
While doing that make sure that you call for a constitutional convention, not an amendment or a series if amendments. A full on new constitution is needed to clear the shit out.
While the House of Representatives remains out have all the democratic representatives meet and broadcast it publicly. Do that every single day, talk policy and reforms and ask republican representatives to join the meeting. Make it painfully obvious that the democrats want to have a functioning government and not be held out like this endlessly.
Anyways tangent over.
You do not want a constitutional convention in this political climate. Amending the constitution requires 3/4 of state legislatures to ratify the amendment. Considering a solid majority of states have Republican controlled legislatures, the only things we’re likely to get from a convention are amendments banning DEI initiatives and trans people in sports, or something even worse.
I say they amend the constitution to make it 1/4 vote congress impeach, 1/3 vote removes. VP is not picked by President, it is the second most votes like when the country started. Then you put oversight committees on every executive organization and they answer directly to congress. Get rid of “executive powers” that come from declaring emergencies and etc. So impeaching president puts the VP (most likely their running opponent). Then the 3rd votes goes to VP and an emergency vote is taken place, to put a new Senate backup.
Or I’ve said before: dissolve the executive branch, and place all of the organizations under the legislature, and make a 3rd party review committee that evaluates if legislation, and judicial is being created to overpower the judicial branch or corrupt. And all organizations under the executive answer directly to congress.
Or, dissolve the Senate and the Executive… Place everything under Congress, expand the supreme Court to 50 judges one from each state. (Still would need some oversight)
But the idea is to make it so population of individuals is easily defeated, and we don’t have giant stupid news buyouts every 4 years to make 1 position something it was never meant to me. If you don’t want a king, kill the position
That would work if it weren’t for the gullibility of republican voters. GOP is clearly the ones at fault for the current shut down, yet they’ve convinced half of their supporters to blame democrats based on literally nothing.
So if the senate refuses to ratify any impeachment than all the GOP has to do is yell “TDS” and all their criminally stupid supporters would believe it no questions asked.
Not really different from our current reality tho
The events of January 6th suggest Trump would be willing to mass execute congress if he didn’t need them anymore
IIRC, Articles of Impeachment against the President are filed in the House, not the Senate.
The articles of impeachment are the house, the removal is the Senate. Requires 2/3. It’s why Trump was not removed during his 1st term. Impeached twice, and the Senate never voted to remove, the second time saying it was so close to the end it doesn’t matter if we vote. (It did matter, he most likely wouldn’t be president now if they had)
Trump will negotiate with Hamas, Putin and North Korea but NOT with Democrats.
And we can add the Taliban to the list, scheduled to negotiate at Camp David no less.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-calls-off-secret-meeting-with-taliban-afghan-leaders
Honestly, Trump and Republicans in general aren’t that different from what one might imagine an American version of the Taliban to be like.
Another impeachable offense.
I think he wants to pave a road made of impeachable offenses.
You’re kidding yourself if you think he’d build a public utility
Oh it would be a private road. A nice alley lined with trophies of self-aggrandisement and narcissism, closed off to the public who only get to look on through a fence as he gets driven up and down his rue de merde (which someone told him is related to merit, so he ate it right up, because fact checking is for losers) in a pimped out golf cart.
The road to hell is paved with impeachable offenses?
I thought it was kiddie rape
I would hope that’s an impeachable offense Oo.
After midterms. These dems better put on their big girl panties and start impeaching and imprisoning this entire administration and the Supreme Court immediately. No mercy project 2029!
They absolutely need to, but I’d bet real money they wont.
I can already hear them saying “we as a nation need to heal and move on from the darkness behind us” 🙄
Cancer is “healed” by aggressively snuffing it out.
Rinse and repeat.
Unfortunately, the rinse crew has been dissolved as a cost cutting measure.
I hope there are enormous protests and campaigns to pressure them into it, if they don’t (which yeah, they probably wouldn’t, left to their natural inclinations).
Don’t worry. I’m sure we’ll get Merrick Garland as AG again.
He will be in jail. Maybe we don’t pardon him so the new guy does his job properly this time
