Refurbished Thinkpad. The answer is always refurbished Thinkpad.

I agree. Although I think it’s important to shift what’s good enough and to have empathy for those who struggle. A lot of racism in Europe is focused around immigrants “not trying hard enough”, like refusing to speak to people that have an accent. “Why can’t they just learn? It’s not that hard.” It actually is that hard, Cathrine. Try navigating Swedish bureaucracy with your Duolingo food-ordering skills and you’ll see. Some people won’t ever learn proper grammar and tiny nuances and that’s okay, you can have a full conversation anyway.

“Dump 100 average 10-year-olds in Spain and most will be able to reach near-native fluency without much effort. Dump 100 average 35-year-olds in Spain and most won’t reach near-native fluency without struggling a great deal.”

is NOT saying

“Having an accent is bad; only perfect pronunciation is good enough.”

“You need flawless grammar to be able to communicate.”

“Hard = impossible”

“There is no point in learning a language if you struggle.”

“35-year-olds shouldn’t even try.”

I got a bunch of downvotes for my comment. I guess you’re not the only one reading “it’s much harder” = “there is no point”. I did not say that. The article I linked did not say that. On the contrary, the article talks about hos the critical period seems to be longer than they previously thought.

For near-native fluency, there is an age cap at around 10 years. It’s much harder for adults, as their critical learning period is closed: https://news.mit.edu/2018/cognitive-scientists-define-critical-period-learning-language-0501

However there is evidence that psychedelics can open up critical periods for social learning (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06204-3) and ongoing research about other critical periods, language learning being one of them.

Granted. You are born in the cleaning supplies storage room by one of the low-status staff members.