• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    It’s crazy how it’s absolutely impossible to criticize steam without getting bashed to oblivion by so-called gamers. The amount of free balls sucking Steam gets is just ridiculous. They have sub 100 employees , take 30% of every god damn games sold on the platform and you don’t own you games. Yeah it’s a cool platform, but in the end it’s just another nasty capitalist business.

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      10 months ago

      Boy are you gonna be surprised as hell when you find out what sort of percentage other publishers take, especially for physical releases!

      Shockingly enough, infrastructure requires money to run!

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        You mean like Epic who takes 12%? Or Itch that let you chose your contribution? Or Humble that takes 25% but give half of that to charity?
        BTW steam is not a publisher…

        The infrastructure argument is just BS in 2025. Just admit you’re an official gamer, meaning you will do anything to protect a soulless capitalist business that make millions everyday but employ like 83 people. Ubisoft bad, Steam good, I know lol.

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          Oh please, Sony, Nintendo, Apple, etc all take 30%+. Epic is flailing horribly while running EGS at a deficit held up solely by Fortnige skins and gambling (but it’s ok when they do it right?)

          Physical publishers take 60%+.

          Humble bundle is getting discounted keys because it’s for charity.

          Steam is a publisher. They’ll also finance your game with interest-free loans, you don’t even need to publish your game on Steam.

          More to the point, Steam offers massive value for that 30%- forums, hosting, security, patching services, hosting, matchmaking, dlc options, the list goes on and on… And more importantly, steam doesnt care if you use those services even while selling keys elsewhere. that means that steam doesn’t even get 30% of the take from those keys.

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            Dude will rip his shirt to protect a billionaire lol. Kind of remind me of a certain cult…

            I’ll just leave this here and wait for your cognitive dissonance to explain me why it’s perfectly ok:

            • Steam literally invented the “you don’t own you games” model. But let’s just pretend Ubisoft did.

            • Valve’s have create an ecosystem for underage gambling. The main innovation they ever created is making kids addicted to lootbox and shit. In 2023, they made 1 billion fromthat system, it’s FUCKING DISGUSTING. But let’s pretend it’s just Epic and Ubisoft right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y

            I don’t care for any of the business you mentioned, they are all dirty, capitalist and soulless but the fact is that steam is almost a monopoly, and the greediest one. It’s literally it the most profitable company per employee in the United States, fact. So to see an army of dudes willing to do anything to suck a billionaire’s dick is beyond pathetic.

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              No, I’m just tired of chuds parroting astroturfed bullshit from epic game’s massive PR campaign against valve that they did instead of improving their service.

              Valve did not invent ‘you don’t own your games’, nor did they invent DRM. The entire reason it took off was that it was one of the first PC game DRMs that didn’t suck ass.

              Valve did not create the gambling systems, they created a trading system and a marketplace that third parties abused to create gambling sites. If they didn’t have it, you would complain that you cant trade cards or items or hats.

              Steam is hilariously far from “the greediest monopoly” lmao. It’s like you’ve never heard of ma bell, meta, or alphabet lol.

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      10 months ago

      take 30% of every god damn games sold on the platform and you don’t own you games.

      they also provide both proton completely for free, and the entire steam marketplace, as well as any other additional functionality, steam networking for ex, with that 30% cut.

      It’s a large cut, but you’re not really going to find a better option. Sure you could release on GOG, i think like 12 people use GOG though.

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        they also provide both proton completely for free

        Yeah,I mean Proton is basically Wine - A free and open-source project developed by hundred of people over the years - with some extra patches. It’s great, but the only reason they did it is to sell steam decks.

        Steam does certain things really well, but in the end it’s just a capitalist business. I don’t get why gamers can be that bitchy about studios, that employ thousands of devs and artists, people who just wants to make good games but needs to deal with executives, but will rip their shirt a soon as someone criticize steam. They do no care about you, your experience, or even video games, they only care about money.