• Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      17 days ago

      This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas.

      The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.

      "Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”

      “I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”

      not-immune-to-propaganda

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        Why won’t someone defend the DPRK when they’re literally fighting for their freedom? They’re literally blockaded by the US and threatened with invasion drills every single year, not to mention that the US literally occupies the south with military bases. The rational stance on this issue is to be in the side of the DPRK.

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          Because NK is a despotic hellhole. The rational stance on the Korean war is to stay the hell out of it, both sides are horrible examples of states failing their only purpose. Whatever magical utopia you think NK will become without the intervention of capital and capitalism is just a fantasy that will not happen, not in North Korea.

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            The rational stance on the Korean war is to stay the hell out of it.

            Which is why you should be advocating for american troops to leave Korea and lift the economic blockade, not demonize the DPRK. Also i know the DPRK is not a “magical utopia”, but unlike you i understand that many of the draconian measures taken by them are a consequence of the continuous state of emergency caused by american imperialism.

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              That’s straight up not true. Yes, being attacked by America will cause some terrible consequences, they don’t need to devolve into a totalitarian shithole. And you are the weird one for not being and to hold multiple opinions at once. I can acknowledge that America is bad without glorifying regimes at least as bad as America.

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                Yes, they should just demilitarize so they can be easily bombed and murdered by the gringos so i as a westerner can sympathize with them! Also implying that the DPRK, a country that has never attacked anyone and is literally just trying to survive a siege from the most powerful empire hitherto, is as bad as the empire itself, is straight up stupid.

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        it’s more wild how eager libs are to insist that a small, relatively poor country that has no real relevance to most people’s lives is some kind of wacky hermit kingdom where you can be executed by artillery strike for having the wrong haircut, every city is made of cardboard for propaganda purposes, and people have to push the trains along the tracks

        especially when all of this is presented with no evidence, is often directly contradictory, and makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for more than five minutes

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          If you think NK is anything but a shithole you are an idiot. If you think it’s normal for you people to be complete recluses but then to come out in force when someone mentions a shithole like NK you are also an idiot.

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            If you think NK is anything but a shithole you are an idiot.

            why? i have been shown no credible evidence that it’s a “shithole”
            the more idiotic thing would be to believe the often contradictory and ridiculous things that have been said about the country

            If you think it’s normal for you people to be complete recluses but then to come out in force when someone mentions a shithole like NK you are also an idiot.

            says someone from a weeb instance no-one has ever heard of

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              You know damn well you’ve seen credible news from NK. You’re just obsessed with the second world and have anything that goes against your special interest

              And my instance doesn’t seclude itself until it needs to brigade random posts taking about authoritarian hellholes.

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                You know damn well you’ve seen credible news from NK. You’re just obsessed with the second world and have anything that goes against your special interest

                nope, i require outlandish allegations to be substantiated before i believe them, because i am capable of critical thought

                And my instance doesn’t seclude itself until it needs to brigade random posts taking about authoritarian hellholes.

                hexbear and lemmygrad don’t “seclude themselves”, we (and they) are everywhere across the fediverse, which is why liberals complain so much
                you are the first person i have ever seen from your instance

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          Radlibs like Hasan the Streamer indulge in that aspect themselves. Blaming tankies for having “bad optics” by supporting NK without slandering it. Once they said they same thing about supporting Palestinians and opposing Zionism. Wrong they were and wrong they shall remain. True solidarity screams into the turned faces.

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        yeah, kind of crazy seeing as only upper class and government officials are even allowed to leave NK. that’s their team, huh?

        EDIT: oh wait, I also forgot that the NK lower class is allowed to leave to die in Ukraine for a country they don’t even live in, oops, my b