[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let’s disarm the police
[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
NO,
NOT
LIKE
THIS
[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let’s disarm the police
[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
NO,
NOT
LIKE
THIS
I like how here it say disarm instead of defund or disband. But then disarming the police in US mean police is basically a sitting duck when shit happened because there’s like bazillion of people owning gun. I wonder how’s that gonna work.
like it works in nations where the cops don’t go around with tools to murder people.
In what nation where the civilian are a bunch of gun nuts and the cop doesn’t have gun?
Love that the excuse Americans give for why it’s ok for police to carry lethal weapons is “Americans are stupid anf and dangerous!!!”
Yhea, cops should carry guns. if it is an issue with someone dangerous, call a special unit. Cops have proven themselves too stupid to be trusted with guns.
I’m not american, in fact i live half way across the globe and i don’t trust people with gun, cops or american. Now answer the question.
Those nations have heavy regulated gun laws though.
and do they have mass shootings on the daily?
That’s not the point. The point is that you can’t have a police force that’s weaker than the criminals.
yes you can. have a special unit for those cases. the goons on the streets don’t need firearms.
Cops don’t need the option to murder me when giving me a speeding ticket.
Police in my country wear guns.
They never use them because criminals don’t shoot at cops.
You maybe get 1 crazy person per year that deserves to have a weapon drawn at them.
Your argument implies the inhumane and corrupt American police forces, which are an exception.
I dont think they’re saying the concept doesn’t work, I think they just mean that its to easy for a bad actor to legally get a gun in the US
In this case, the police are the bad actors getting guns.
maybe without them, they wouldn’t feel so comfortable escalating every situation.
Correct answer. Even in countries where by and large police aren’t armed, they still have a section of specific very heavily trained police who are armed who can be called in if shit goes down. For sitting on an overpass radaring cars, or showing up 16 hours late to write an incident report for the burglary they failed to stop, or harassing some homeowner about the length of his lawn or the volume knob position on his stereo, or any of innumerable other things the police spend most of their day doing they don’t need to be toting around guns. The majority of Americans don’t, and somehow most of us manage not to get shot on a daily basis despite theoretically rubbing elbows with most of the same criminals that the cops do.
By also disarming the people
How exactly do you propose we do that?
That’s not my competence, I’m not a politician
Well there are many reasons that disarming everyone in the U.S. would be virtually impossible and generally not a good idea (though those reasons only apply to the U.S.).
I can absolutely see many hurdles in the way. However that doesn’t change my belief that people should not own guns, and we should move towards a society without guns. There’s exceptions of course, but those apply to a very small percentage of the population.
True. No guns = no gun violence. Simple.
My issue is that banning guns for civilians creates a false sense of security. Criminals who are going to commit a mass shooting anyway will carry a gun whether it’s illegal or not. But because everyone else is unarmed and believes that applies to everyone, people can no longer defend themselves. Only an idiot would shoot at a crowd of people who are all armed. It’s kind of like a weapon that never needs to be fired situation.
Yes, i’m aware that there are other countries where civilians don’t have guns, and there is no gun crime. But those countries don’t have the same history with guns that the U.S. does, so it’s a false equivalency
@Damarus @psx_crab that would require use of force, its not gonna end well
I guess then you’re cooked
@Damarus yeah, better to just leave if you can!
Oh I’m good here in Europe, we do fine without guns
Quite well from my perspective.