• Xenny@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Jesse’s supposed to be a complete dipshit but he has a really good redemption by the end in my opinion

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      That was my problem with the show too.

      Smart person decides to cook meth…

      Step 1: Partner with complete dipshit

      Step 2:

      Step 3: Profit

      It’s not hard to cook meth especially if you have a science background.

      EVERYTHING in the show is there to make cooking meth harder because if it wasn’t hard it would be a completely boring story.

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        The reason Smart Person needed to partner up with Complete Dipshit is because he needed Complete Dipshit’s underground connections to 1) acquire some controlled substances using less than legal methods, and 2) to sell what he’s cooked up. Jesse wasn’t there to help with manufacturing, he was there to help with logistics. Walter couldn’t have done those on his own because not even the best chemistry departments at the bestest universities teach you how to steal precursor drugs or cold call psychotic drug lords for exciting new business opportunities.

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          You’re telling me that it is a requirement to be a Complete Dipshit to have underground connections?

          I get that is how the show sold it and I guess you believed it

          There’s just no way for Walt to become Heizenberg without Complete Dipshit

          Let’s just ignore the fact that the writer planned the Complete Dipshit to die a handful of episodes into the series

          Again, EVERYTHING in the show is designed to make cooking/distributing meth challenging. They had to make Complete Dipshit useful because he “had” to be in the story.

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            Its not a requirement to be a complete dipshit to have underground connections. But the one complete dipshit that Walter knew did have those underground connections, so he probably didn’t think to keep looking for someone else. Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

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              “The story happened that way so that’s the only way it could have happened”

              Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

              Once again everything is stacked against Walt. Always another road block. Episode after episode.

              They had to give him a complete dipshit to work with because a semi-competent person he knew would have been a “boring” story.

              Maybe show interest in the DEA and ride around with his brother-in-law to secretly collect intel. Ends up getting a job for the DEA but basically an inside guy.

              Let me go find the drop out high school student I knew and cook meth in an RV. Is definitely not a thing an intelligent person would choose to do. Sure if they are forced to like in the story, but that doesn’t make it right or enjoyable.

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                Idk the original seems more plausible than getting a job with the DEA as an inside guy and cooking meth on the side with cartels lol

                But what the heck do I know about real life meth producers

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                  You want a more plausible storyline than anything else? You like Breaking Bad because the storyline is realistic?

                  A smart guy infiltrating the DEA and using their information in a cat and mouse game sounds interesting to me

                  It’s a fictional story

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                You know what’s funny is the story happened that way not because it was the only way it could happen. They originally had Jesse pinkman’s death planned for the end of season 1 he was supposed to be killed by Walt. But he ended up being a fan favorite character and they kept him on.

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                  Of course the story didn’t have to happen in any specific way. It’s a fictional story. It can be written in anyway. Doesn’t even have to be realistic

                  Walt could have had to make a rocket so he could transport meth to the moon because Tuco is on a moon base and really wants some.

                  From my 2.5ish season watching experience, Pinkmen was the only character I enjoyed from the show. I’m not saying that I hated his character or acting. But the premise that Walt was with Pinkman to begin with. The whole show hinges on that idea and Pinkman becomes more and more important to the show.

                  Breaking Bad doesn’t have many “likable” characters but it is a basic story about the characters.

                  A story with an amazing plot would still be good with subpar actors. Breaking Bad with worse actors would be totally insufferable.