Would you ever straight up say to your son, ‘You are a disappointment’?

    • angrystego@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      It’s normal to express emotions and it’s good to learn to first process them properly and then express them in a healthy way that is not harmful for others.

      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Yeah, no.

        This ‘do no harm’ shit is nothing more than toxic positivity.

        Pain is part of life. Learn to deal with it and stop trying to avoid it pathologically. You should feel bad for disappointing people. Nobody is harming you by telling you that you fucked up, the only thing that gets hurt is your ego and your insistence nothing you do is wrong because you do it.

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          13 days ago

          There can be both toxic positivity and toxic negativity. It’s good to be aware you can do damage with words. It greatly depends on the situation and words and nonverbal language used. I also feel like saying you’re disappointed by the son’s concrete behaviour is ok, while saying he’s a disappointment (in his whole) is a heavy caliber - maybe the meaning varies regionally or something?

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            13 days ago

            someone’s entire life can legitimately be a disappointment to themselves, and to others.

            and they should be forced to acknowledge that. especially if they want to improve it.

            plenty of people are piece of shit their entire lives. look at Rob Reiner’s son who ended up murdering his parents who did nothing but right by him his entire life.

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              13 days ago

              Yep, that can be an extreme case where it could be used. I think it gets used by abusive or just clueless parents more often though.

    • Ikon@sh.itjust.works
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      13 days ago

      I agree thats its normal to express your emotions, but there is a difference between telling someone that they have disappointed you and telling someone that they are a disappointment.

      Calling someone a disappointment implies that it is something intrinsic about the person, while saying that someone has disappointed you shows that it is something that they have done and isn’t an overarching accusation.