cross-posted from: https://literature.cafe/post/30387402
@threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works
Ik that there used to be Diagonlemmy, but, IMHO, we should create an instance that is exclusive to Harry Potter, and the Wizarding World.
Perhaps call the instance Wizarding.World, or something.
That way, Fediverse users who wish to interact with Harry Potter material can, and other users/instances/etc, can defederate/don’t have to.
Harry Potter is only going to become more popular.
The HBO Harry Potter series is coming. Whether we like it or not, the HP fandom is about to have a significant resurgence, and it’s going to find a home somewhere on the internet.
The question is whether that somewhere is Reddit, Discord, and corporate platforms — or whether the Fediverse gets there first and shapes what that community looks like.
People flock to spaces where they feel familiar and welcomed.
Rowling will profit from HP whether a Lemmy instance exists or not.
The Fediverse needs more projects that make immediate sense to people, and it needs to stop ceding entire fandoms to corporate platforms by default.
The move isn’t to reject the fandom.
The move is to build the instance with explicit values — pro-trans, pro-queer, progressive moderation, zero tolerance for bigotry.
Pull HP fans into federated, open spaces and surround them with those values.
That’s far more powerful than gatekeeping.
I shared this, because I wanted to know what the general consensus was.
Also if there were any users who might have any experience with potentially creating/running their own instance.
Nah
I mean I can think of ip that makes more sense for its own instance. star trek comes to mind.
Why would you create something before there was demand for it? Seems completely backwards.
What’s interesting about this, is you post it as if it’s a question, and despite getting an almost universal “Fuck no” as the answer to the question, you’re just arguing that we should do it.
If you want to do it, do it. But stop looking for validation for it. You’re asking for approval to celebrate and recognise someone who actively targets and harms trans people. You’re not going to get that approval. So either take that as the answer, or stop pretending it was ever a question.
Be prepared to be defederated from almost immediately as it opens by people… as well, as an instance admin, I can say it is hard. Even for a small instance. As well, people are just going to downvote your instances content as soon as its posted. The only reason we have the harry potter community still on literature.cafe is because its dead and most posts to it are critique of the TERF JK Rowling and the series, if it was positive content we’d likely have to delete it.
That wouldn’t matter.
It would actually most likely be beneficial, given that the instance would give a space to all of the existing potterheads out there.
Plus, most of the existing instances wouldn’t have to deal with HP/JK conversations and media, because all of the admin and whatnot of the various different instances could tell any users that try to please keep all HP/JK media to the Wizarding.World (or WizardingWorld.Lemmy, or whatever name the instance potentially ends up having).
Ie
Similar to how a Quarantine works.
Plus, it would help to bring in a ton of new users, to the Fediverse.
if it was positive content we’d likely have to delete it.
Nice to see that censorship is still alive and well, even in The Fediverse.
Plus, it would help to bring in a ton of new users, to the Fediverse.
Yay, more folks who are happy to fund the erasure of trans people. Can’t wait! /s
You would likely need more than one admin. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck because you’re going to need it.
Thank you very much
I find it amazing that JKR pretty much gets a free pass when someone like Gaiman is so me-too-ed that people online throw out his books and trash his mostly progressive history. Just imagine the condemnation if someone suggested a Gaiman community. Weird, subjective times we live in.
I mean this thread does have -27 downvotes
Rightly so. I’m probably over-egging it. But there are still many people who should know better willing to give JKR a pass. Look at how excited people are online about a shoddy Amazon remake of the movies. Could you imagine anyone even considering a Gaiman show at this point?
I think people consider sexual assault differently here, although I’d note that Harry Potter is probably way more of a global phenomenon than Gaiman’s stuff which plays into this too.
The move isn’t to reject the fandom.
The move is to build the instance with explicit values — pro-trans, pro-queer, progressive moderation, zero tolerance for bigotry.
This feels like building a forum to discuss Mein Kamph, and then saying it’s going to moderated with a focus on inclusion, human rights, and diversity.
With the whole HP thing, there are IMO far too many people fully separating the art and the artist. I just can’t morally do that.
I understand the point you’re making, but we might be losing the plot comparing Mein Kampf to Harry Potter…
People can like and love Harry Potter without endorsing or even being aware of Rowling and her views.
Lol, you’ve heard of the idea of publicity right?
It puts money into her pocket and enables her to spread her hate.
Exactly
If you want to.
I think it makes sense to follow the Star Trek instance and just have local communities centered around Harry Potter while allowing federation with everything else.
Why would this decision require a public feedback sesh? Build it and they will come. Or they won’t because they read some stuff about the author.
Because a lot (if not most) of Fediverse hate anything Harry Potter.
Also, neither me, nor the community’s mod, have the resources to potentially create an instance.
Then fuck off
No
Stupid TERF
No U
Just please, say the quiet part loud, that’s all people want.
“I support jkr but I don’t want to say it cause I know it would make me look bad”
No need to do it yourself. Let someone do it for you. There’s Communickwhich can also setup a matrix server for you (in addition to Lemmy). There might be others, but I dont know of them.
I think it’s the cost of a Netflix subscription.
Hosting a harry potter instance - $10/mo (* I have no idea how much proprietary shit costs)
Supporting fascism - PRICELESS!
Communick is fascist? Where did you get that information?
Harry Potter is fascist (Well Rowling is a transphobe right wing piece of shit at the very least)
I checked out the website, but I can’t find any mention of being able to migrate away or downloading the databases. How do these managed services work?
Hey, Communick founder here. End of last year we did the migration for ttrpg.network from K&T to our servers. There were definitely some issues in the beginning as that was the first large-ish instance in terms of community activity, but things now seems to be a lot better. To anyone willing to migrate, I can extend the same deal I offered to @eerongal@ttrpg.network: if you commit to an yearly plan, I can waive the setup fee.
I said migrate away. I don’t know what kind of access the managed service includes. This is something that I think should be clearly stated on the website.
Right, I misunderstood. We have daily backups and I can give access to them via SFTP, but to be honest there is no interface to do that via the website yet. It’s only recently that hetzner integrated their storage box solution to their cloud API, and I didn’t have the time (or customer pressure) to automate that yet.
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Just “transphobe” works better, tbh.
And would work as a Belgian gTLD domain, as with the shortener for youtu.be 😄
no 🤮
Sure, it could be good. However…
- Who is going to host it?
- Who is going to spend all that effort building the community?
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You could ask the community if someone can and wants to run an instance, but chances are that the idea is dead already. You then have to convince the communities to move, which could also not work, or even backfire.
So I’m not very convinced that this will happen, unless you decide to just do it yourself. Become the change you wish to see.
No ideas yet, for the first question.
For the second, there are already a couple of HP and JK Rowling communities.
To be clear, the blahaj one is for people to talk about the awful shit she’s doing and the impact it’s having on her victims. It’s not a community for people who support her or just want to have polite conversation about her that ignores the harm she is doing
Yes, but it’s still connected to Harry Potter.
In the same way that fuckAI is connected to AI, sure.
But that’s a stupid point to make
The links you put;
- Inactive, last post 6 months ago
- Inactive, last post 4 months ago
- Closed, moved to 1
- Very active, about how much jkr sucks and that anyone who tries to protect her or praise her works is stupid at best and malicious at worst (which are you?)
Just go read better fantasy books, it’s not hard, there’s a million million more of them, cause jkr is a sloppy hack. He’s some of the works she borrowed from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_influences_and_analogues
No. We don’t need a new instance for every mass media piece of shit. Definitely not scumbag HP.
Make an instance for Hoppers first. I hear it’s actually good.
Who is “we”? If you want to do it, no one is stopping you.
