it’s naïve to say that this level of racism was only fostered from the Confederacy
It’s not naive because Northen racism still fought a war to give African-Americans the right to be citizens. It objectively did not rise to the level of taking those voting rights away, which is what OP is about. Those are two distinct levels of racism is what I’m saying.
But you’re rewriting history. They still burned black people inside their homes. They lynched. They segregated. They did all the horrific things. But you want to draw the line and say that they were better because they gave them citizenship? How’d that citizenship work out when trying to get a job?There were plenty of sharecroppers stuck on farms for money they couldn’t spend anywhere else. But hey! At least they could vote! America is a racist country through and through. Stop acting like it’s not, y’all.
If you want to ignore the blatant racism of the America since it’s founding, you can. But don’t act like America has gotten better. It still hates the minority, I.e. not whites.
I don’t know, I wrote down several times that black people died and you’re dismissive of it, because at least they freed em first. I don’t know how much more I can break it down.
You’re not actually responding with rebuttals, you’re just saying naïvely, “north freed black people. Doesn’t matter how many died from racist attacks and infrastructure. Because they fought to free them.” that’s insane logic. The north made few steps to prevent discrimination against blacks, even preventing them from voting in some areas. The rest of the country did too, I wonder why? Maybe it’s because america is a country founded on racism. Or more accurately discrimination of the unseemly. The unwanted. The outcasts of society. It was blacks, Jews, Irish, Italians, Polish, Arabians, southeast Asians, Indians, American Indians. The list goes on.
We will always have racism and I wish I had your optimism. It’s admirable. But I have seen far too much of the horrors of the world up close, to ever believe humanity will get better. I’m sorry you weren’t able to convince me, and I you. I hope you are able to see the future you yearn for.
make up quotes about me what an actual child, you are. Here’s the actual quote.
It’s not naive because Northen racism still fought a war to give African-Americans the right to be citizens.
It’s not naïve to say that we would still have the level of racism today, when after they fought that war to give African Americans the right to be citizens? When those same soldiers killed black people? When they kept them out of schools and churches? You’re still ignoring the point, my friend. How about another quote?
…democracy and freedom for all
you said this as your main sticking point for the difference. Where is the freedom in segregation? Where is the democracy in intentional economic hardship? Where is the democracy in lynchings?
You are quite welcome to keep your whitewashed history of the US. Good luck overcoming the fascism with that one. Your country can’t even agree on your own history and you hope to be condescending? Truly it is a wonder how Donald Trump got elected in your country.
Nah, born and raised in the US. But I pledge allegiance to no government.
Edit: you just struck me as a nationalist, so I figured I would appeal to that by saying your country. you gotta be nationalist to ignore the history of the country.
Oh you think im a nationalist. Very cool. No you’re right both sides are the same might as well let maga win because it’s all racist anyway, you convinced me thanks I appreciate you showing me the way.
It’s not naive because Northen racism still fought a war to give African-Americans the right to be citizens. It objectively did not rise to the level of taking those voting rights away, which is what OP is about. Those are two distinct levels of racism is what I’m saying.
But you’re rewriting history. They still burned black people inside their homes. They lynched. They segregated. They did all the horrific things. But you want to draw the line and say that they were better because they gave them citizenship? How’d that citizenship work out when trying to get a job?There were plenty of sharecroppers stuck on farms for money they couldn’t spend anywhere else. But hey! At least they could vote! America is a racist country through and through. Stop acting like it’s not, y’all.
If you want to ignore the blatant racism of the America since it’s founding, you can. But don’t act like America has gotten better. It still hates the minority, I.e. not whites.
Idk i wrote several times it’s racist idk how much more i need to break it down for you
I don’t know, I wrote down several times that black people died and you’re dismissive of it, because at least they freed em first. I don’t know how much more I can break it down.
You’re not actually responding with rebuttals, you’re just saying naïvely, “north freed black people. Doesn’t matter how many died from racist attacks and infrastructure. Because they fought to free them.” that’s insane logic. The north made few steps to prevent discrimination against blacks, even preventing them from voting in some areas. The rest of the country did too, I wonder why? Maybe it’s because america is a country founded on racism. Or more accurately discrimination of the unseemly. The unwanted. The outcasts of society. It was blacks, Jews, Irish, Italians, Polish, Arabians, southeast Asians, Indians, American Indians. The list goes on.
We will always have racism and I wish I had your optimism. It’s admirable. But I have seen far too much of the horrors of the world up close, to ever believe humanity will get better. I’m sorry you weren’t able to convince me, and I you. I hope you are able to see the future you yearn for.
Well I mean how could I ever convince you if you make up quotes i never said. You’re just talking past me. Have a nice life.
make up quotes about me what an actual child, you are. Here’s the actual quote.
It’s not naïve to say that we would still have the level of racism today, when after they fought that war to give African Americans the right to be citizens? When those same soldiers killed black people? When they kept them out of schools and churches? You’re still ignoring the point, my friend. How about another quote?
you said this as your main sticking point for the difference. Where is the freedom in segregation? Where is the democracy in intentional economic hardship? Where is the democracy in lynchings?
You are quite welcome to keep your whitewashed history of the US. Good luck overcoming the fascism with that one. Your country can’t even agree on your own history and you hope to be condescending? Truly it is a wonder how Donald Trump got elected in your country.
Lol so you’re not even in the US trying to teach me about my own lived reality in the US. It all makes sense now.
Nah, born and raised in the US. But I pledge allegiance to no government.
Edit: you just struck me as a nationalist, so I figured I would appeal to that by saying your country. you gotta be nationalist to ignore the history of the country.
Oh you think im a nationalist. Very cool. No you’re right both sides are the same might as well let maga win because it’s all racist anyway, you convinced me thanks I appreciate you showing me the way.