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cm0002@infosec.pub to Privacy@programming.dev · 1 day ago

Just got this popup while trying to open a website using archive.is

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Just got this popup while trying to open a website using archive.is

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cm0002@infosec.pub to Privacy@programming.dev · 1 day ago
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  • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zip
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    Google is rolling in mobile verification to ReCAPTCHA, requiring an approved phone and if on Android, a Google account.

    Privacy-based phones will be locked out of this. You can choose between remaining secure and private or viewing a website using Google’s ReCAPTCHA service.

    https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      The Internet was fun for a time… in the beginning… then capitalism used it to implement fascism and enslave humanity.

      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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        The internet didn’t make everyone vote for Trump.

        • Zirconium@lemmy.world
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          Well… they certainly helped

        • Optional@lemmy.world
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          Didn’t do much to stop it, either.

          • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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            Almost like it is irrelevant to how the charlatans and liars got into power…

        • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I don’t believe it, sorry

    • XLE@piefed.social
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      Can you technically install Google Play Services on GraphineOS? Obviously, it would be a major hit to your privacy compared to the previous system, but still technically possible…

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        Yes, but fuck Google, their services and everyone using their captcha. Don’t give them your time, money and traffic.

        • XLE@piefed.social
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          +1 on fuck Google. “Can” couldn’t be farther from “should”

      • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zip
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        Yes, play services can be installed and used on Graphene, I have it installed currently and it meets the version requirements set forth in the FAQ.

        That being said, there’s speculation in the groups that Google will eventually go the same way with this as they did for locking out privacy users from the Google Pay system, saying it’s not a trusted OS. This could very well end the same way. I can see a ton of people dipping their toes in the waters of privacy-based operating systems on their phones to go back to Google’s Android because they don’t want to lose access to every single site that uses ReCAPTCHA in far greater numbers than were persuaded by locking them out of pay services.

      • Zirconium@lemmy.world
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        Could try using an older used phone (I have like 2 old Motorola’s) with stock ROM

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        Yes? It’s officially supported, too. It sandboxes Google play and limits its system access

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    If I were to ever encounter that, I’d just Ctrl+W.

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    As we know, only humans are capable of reading QR codes.

    • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zip
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      That’s not the point of the QR code. The point is Google is requiring a certified Google account and phone to allow access. Privacy-based phones are not welcome. I would suggest closing the tab when these pop up.

      reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification is the section at the bottom that’s relevant.

      https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en

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        Yikes. I was imagining they were only trying to trick people into using their phones that could be tracked (in addition to jumping through arbitrarily placed hoops in the traditional captcha style) not that they were actually requiring a phone running Google spyware. That’s insane.

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      Eh? Since when can humans decode a QR code on the fly, we always need a machine to do it.

      This is a method Google is using to track website usage to actual people by making them scan a code on a device attached to a Google account.

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        I think you missed the sarcasm.

        • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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          Always a possibility.

      • bluGill@fedia.io
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        If you read the spec it isn’t impossible to decode QR codes by hand. It isn’t what I’d call easy, but it is more tedious than hard.

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        we always need a machine to do it.

        That’s the point. Recognizing a car; stairs; busses; motorcycles; stoplights; we used to be the only ones who were able to do this, but now LLMs can likely do them better and faster than we can.

        But QR codes have always been deciphered by machines, so how would me using a machine to scan the QR prove my humanity? It just shows there’s a phone with my ID on it. It’s just 2FA, not are-you-human.

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        deleted by creator

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    Yet another totalitarian and anticompetitive move by the duopoly. Avoid at all cost.

    https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116550899908879585

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    I thought this was a scam, but apparently it’s just Google??

    • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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      Is there a difference?

    • tramdan@piefed.social
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      Both

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    I ran into this and just changed the browser to “desktop mode” then it went back to the typical one you’d see.

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      Yeah i refreshed and got a regular one.

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    Honestly with digital ID being ham fisted into everything… I was hoping things wouldn’t get much worse.

  • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.social
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    cc @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world stop using archive.is‽

    • hirihit640@sh.itjust.works
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      is internet archive the only alternative?

      • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.social
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        there’s https://ghostarchive.org/
        folks can also mirror their own.

  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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    In anddition to the tracking use, this also works to verify if the account being used to verify is adult or not.

    • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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      I guarantee you, this is not the use case.

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        Either way, it’s a bad thing

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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          I agree completely

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            My initial thought wasn’t communicated in the first post; people may not link the tracking to the age verification or vice versa.

            This does feel like an a/b test to slowly introduce an entirely different level of tracking and privacy invasion.

            • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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              Ah. You’re right. Not everyone is/was aware of this taking place before this post, and its implications.

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