Too cold is always better than too hot. Period.
Get a hot tea. Put on a sweater. Put on a fucking blanket, I don’t care. You can fix being cold. You’re just whining.
I can’t strip down to my underwear and dunk myself into a cool water bath at work. It’s frowned upon.
Exactly. I have been trying to hammer this into peoples heads for years.
its so easy for someone thats cold to throw something over them.
Someone thats hot cant do fuck all but boil in their skin and die.
Also, being moderately too cool is 10000% more comfortable than being even slightly too hot.
As someone that’s always cold I generally agree. It is rather annoying freezing my ass off when the thermostat is set to 75° F, but that’s what fuzzy socks and hoodies are for.
Freezing at 75? Damn, I get uncomfortably warm at ~70.
Dude my hands and feet and nose and ears are goin fuckin numb. It’s awful.
Jeez, that sounds like it’d be awful. It’s none of my business but hopefully your circulation etc is OK.
I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we’d get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they’d try anyway.
In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.
You needed ceiling fans to help distribute and even out the temperature.
One would consider to switch desk?
Or just a piece of cardboard, like had been used for decades.
A fan would actually solve the problem. But that requires some official decision trying to improve people’s life.
How would a fan solve the issue?
By avoiding one place being too cold while another is too hot.
You do realize the HVAC systems have fans in them right? The problem is these people were complaining that part of the fan blew on them because they were underneath the vent. A fan is not going to solve an issue like that because the fans radiate out and the fins radiate out including down. So in a normal office situation like this you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily. A fan ain’t going to do shit.
Yeah, noticed the problem with relying on the HVAC’s internal fans to do local air circulation?
you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily
Into some other place with people too. And certainly not into the hot island, because if the air could easily reach there it wouldn’t be a hot island.
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Seems like a no-brainer. You can put on any amount of clothing if the office is too cold, but there’s only so much you can take off if it’s too hot. Even on casual Friday - found that out the hard way.
Not much that clothing can do when the air is excessively dry due to excessive air conditioning, also not much it helps against headache inducing constant air flow.
Hot office suck, a/c sucks. I am lucky we have a heat exchanger ceiling in the office and it is set to comfortable temperatures not fridge settings. I necer quite understood why some seem to insidt a room hast to be colder in summer than in winter.
I got annoyed the other day at work. I work in the offices of a factory. It’s 35 Celsius and a lot of hard working people are working next to large ovens and suffering from high heat. A couple of people on the office Teams channel started with comments like “given the temperature we will be organising some cold drinks and ice creams for the office staff”
I would like to see those people try and spend a day on the production lines in this heat.
nothing compares to working in 112°F under a blazing sun with 75% humidity, zero cloud cover and zero wind.
did I mention you’re doing this for 10-12 hours a day while performing complex geometry and handling tools that can cut off your fingers, arms, or legs?
all while the boss is driving site to site in a blast freezer on wheels bitching about why it takes too god damn long to put up some walls or sheet the walls/roof.
sometimes I miss it, most the time I want to forget it.
Me in my 93°F warehouse in the summer, which is also my 22°warehouse in the winter, for 12 hours a day
I’m in the same boat and it really is a predicament. The winter is significantly better but sometimes it’s so cold that if I don’t work harder my fingers and feet start hurting. Then oops I worked too hard and now I’m sweating which is making my feet even colder.
Yeah, I prefer winter(except for when the docks get icey and my forklift can’t get traction), because i can always bundle up for it, it’s like working in a cooler or freezer.
I like looking across the warehouse floor everyone is just wearing a long sleeve shirt and steaming.
I don’t complaint about the AC in the office, I just shiver quietly under a blanket.
Thank you.
you can always add more layers, if I take off any more layers it’s an uncomfortable chat with HR while I clear my desk and get escorted out lol
What makes me sad is that when I was young, I was always one of the people that felt too hot, and now I have turned into one of those old office ladies that are always cold. I have lived long enough to become the villain.
I talked them into a convertble standing desk, when I get cold, I stand up. It’s good fo the circulation and once i get tired of standing and i’m warm, i sit back down.
still am, but I moved to a place without AC and still am warm most of the time. good luck!
Big pet peeve of mine. If you think it’s chilly you can put on some clothes, if I run hot and think it’s hot HR frowns upon me removing my clothes.
Reminds me of a workplace story a friend of mine told me years ago:
On the desk opposite of her there was a colleague who insisted on wearing open shoes without socks to work every day. Due to proper AC that was a bit chilly at the feet so she brought a noisy space heater to warm her feet. And when other people complained about the noise she was shocked about how people could be so selfish and demand that she has to freeze. Could not see any other way out of that dilemma.
I have nothing to contribute, but I wanted to complain about my coworkers. They under dress for how chilly the office is kept (76F, which really isn’t chilly) then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on. I think it would be fine keeping it on 78 if we had ceiling fans, but for whatever reason I never see those in offices
then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on.
Okay, that’s more than just mildly irritating. That’s massively irritating.
What if they’re dressed in a manner of which so they don’t have to change when they go back outside?
That still doesn’t excuse that level of wastefulness whatsoever. Oh no, a mild inconvenience!
The AC is also part of this wastefulness
I don’t disagree entirely but removing clothing stops being an option at some point and if I’m expected to get work done I’ll be far better at it if the temperature isn’t making me miserable
You still don’t need to turn the AC up to the point where some people start freezing.
IMHO, it’s not the slightest bit unreasonable to just expect everybody in the office to be able to deal with any temperature between 20C (68F) and 24C (75F) without complaining.
Yes but the temp mentioned was higher than that, so really we just all agree on this
Layers exist
Just carry half your wardrobe around in and out of the office with you every day. It’s common sense.
I just keep a hoodie and a spare T-shirt in my closet at work.
Your fashion sense is your own but you might get a little overheated with half of your wardrobe. Unless you’re a real minimalist
Carrying a long-sleeved shirt with you in case it gets a bit chilly is not unreasonable.
What about a spare pair of shorts in case is warmer outside than the office which requires you to wear pants
Deal with it? I’d rather dress for the 8 hours in the office than for the 30 minute way home.
I already wear long sleeves to work.
Why are US-Americans so stubborn when it comes to metric units? Use ur crappy units in ur country if u like, but on the Internet, most people are NOT from the US and therefore ur numbers mean shit all to us.
I’d say the way you spell “your” and “you” is more annoying
Maybe you haven’t been on the internet for a very long time, but for the majority of the early internet it was vastly more populous with Americans on most major websites. Also, wouldn’t you simply expect people to use the units that they personally are more comfortable with? Also fuck off with your high horse. I agree with skooma_king that your sad spelling is much worse.
Subtract 32, divide by nine, and multiply by five.
Or subtract thirty and halve it for a rough estimate
American or Celicus?
I guess non-retard.
Rankine
It’s awful either way to be fair… Ones below freezing the other isn’t 19.5c ):<
Kelvin
Can’t be, Kelvin doesn’t use degrees
Celcius is Kelvin, just with a different base because absolute zero is not terribly practical.
Big office HVAC is painful to work out. Stack Effect makes temps harder to hit in certain floors. Some suites will put more people in a room than there is cooling capacity, exterior window/shell heating and floor to ceiling windows turns certain walls into giant radiators. If you let people set their own temps, they end up starving other parts of the loop.
Lucky for me our AC is fucked up, so we open up two windows on each end of the wing to cool down. I’m just beside one of those windows, so even if it’s scorching 30+ outside, I’m in shorts and t-shirt inside freezing my balls off in the office.
You’re freezing in 30°C just because the air is moving?
The through wind is pretty intense, so actually yes. Windy area. Melting once I move away from it, though.
Oh my goodness mild weather! How will you survive???
I have strong reactions to cold. My hands and feet won’t warm back up and begin to sting and ache. My back, neck, shoulders, and jaw clench and tighten to the point that it becomes painful. Once I get properly cold, it doesn’t matter how many pairs of socks I wear or if I have extra sweaters, the pain continues until I can either take a hot shower/bath to warm back up. I’ve been like this since I was a kid.
I live in the south of the US currently, and summers here are hot and humid, fairly brutal at times. I fully recognize that it gets very uncomfortable outside during the summer. I don’t, personally, think that it means we need to keep the AC at full blast on its lowest setting all day long like my coworkers do. But I’m definitely in the minority and so summers are painful for me. I usually take several walks around the block to try and warm up throughout the day. If the pain gets bad enough, I’ll use a small space heater or a heating pad to relieve the pain until I can get home.
I honestly miss living in Madrid where AC was not the general rule and, though hot at times, I rarely got the cold tension shivers that I get all the time here in the South. On the other hand, my partner and I save so much money on utilities in the summer compared to my friends and coworkers cause we use the AC sparingly. So benefits and drawbacks I guess. Crazy how different we all are!
Be great full Because you gonna loose nose waitm
