Yeah for sure all of that. I agree with every word you say and I think you also phrased it beautifully.
I still dont really get the backlash against pointing out that nazis wearing masks is actually pretty reasonable from their perspective and not really a sign of weakness (weakness isnt even a bad thing yo) or hypocrisy.
My flippant reaction was just based on the replies that tried to point out supposedly false equivalence when none of my comments stated that I viewed fascists and antifascists even remotely in the same category of morally good or bad.
Reading comprehension is piss poor and the majority of people are more reactive than logical. We live in a mock for mock society who’s only goal is to own the opposition. Call a nazi anything but a put down, and I do so love (/s) how often the people who are supposed to be on my side will use misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic language to do so, is seen as siding with them instead of an actual threat assessment.
Someone will misread my comment and be mad about it.
Even if reading comprehension would be a mayor factor in this discussion, I want to be able to write out my thoughts in a way that is easily understood by different levels of reading comprehension. I think its also about context awareness which I sometimes struggle with. And also going the extra mile of writing out disclaimers so there is not such a response based on assumptions.
and I do so love (/s) how often the people who are supposed to be on my side will use misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic language to do so
Yeah I feel like people are not really great at seeing how this can hurt their own comrades and those groups whoe they want to support as well.
it’s because there is nothing to be gained by applying the label “reasonable” to anything, at all, a fascist does. anything. mask reasons, especially. they are here to kill, only to kill, and they need to be treated as such. applying “reasonable” to them, as if they are humans at all, is an incorrect move.
You are just wrong here. Being able see fascists motivations, understanding their reasoning and figuring out their strategies is one of the keys to defeat them. And you don’t have to treat them differently just because you are able to make sense out of their behavior, because why should you?
i think we just slightly are misaligned. i can see their means/reasons. i just refuse to consider the fascists human. i can see their means math behind why they consider a b or c reasonable, i just cannot consider it reasonable for society.
i’m prob just being hungry and pedantic! my bad! truly.
Yeah for sure all of that. I agree with every word you say and I think you also phrased it beautifully.
I still dont really get the backlash against pointing out that nazis wearing masks is actually pretty reasonable from their perspective and not really a sign of weakness (weakness isnt even a bad thing yo) or hypocrisy.
My flippant reaction was just based on the replies that tried to point out supposedly false equivalence when none of my comments stated that I viewed fascists and antifascists even remotely in the same category of morally good or bad.
Reading comprehension is piss poor and the majority of people are more reactive than logical. We live in a mock for mock society who’s only goal is to own the opposition. Call a nazi anything but a put down, and I do so love (/s) how often the people who are supposed to be on my side will use misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic language to do so, is seen as siding with them instead of an actual threat assessment.
Someone will misread my comment and be mad about it.
Even if reading comprehension would be a mayor factor in this discussion, I want to be able to write out my thoughts in a way that is easily understood by different levels of reading comprehension. I think its also about context awareness which I sometimes struggle with. And also going the extra mile of writing out disclaimers so there is not such a response based on assumptions.
Yeah I feel like people are not really great at seeing how this can hurt their own comrades and those groups whoe they want to support as well.
it’s because there is nothing to be gained by applying the label “reasonable” to anything, at all, a fascist does. anything. mask reasons, especially. they are here to kill, only to kill, and they need to be treated as such. applying “reasonable” to them, as if they are humans at all, is an incorrect move.
You are just wrong here. Being able see fascists motivations, understanding their reasoning and figuring out their strategies is one of the keys to defeat them. And you don’t have to treat them differently just because you are able to make sense out of their behavior, because why should you?
i think we just slightly are misaligned. i can see their means/reasons. i just refuse to consider the fascists human. i can see their means math behind why they consider a b or c reasonable, i just cannot consider it reasonable for society.
i’m prob just being hungry and pedantic! my bad! truly.