• ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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    The funny thing is, what Americans call communism is in fact what Europeans call social democracy - i.e. capitalism with a variable amount of social-oriented restraints on it that simply make sense and work for the benefit of everybody, including the rich. And to a large extent, social democracy works fairly well in Europe. And I know that cuz I moved there, and I would never go back to Stupidland.

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      What most Americans call Communism and Socialism is meaningless because our leadership have been using those terms for ages to just mean “something bad”, and there’s a huge chunk of people who will simply never know any better.

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      Turns out a putting decent safety-net at the bottom does more to help society than just praying for trickle-down economics to come into play any day now

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        There’s no praying involved: trickle-down economics has been tried for half a century and has been thoroughly proven to be a scam by the rich to steal from the poor.

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        No you are wrong, when I am become a billionaire I won’t be able to exploit the workers if they have a good safety net. Hence I am against it. Slash S for sEERIOUS

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    I knew a guy on food stamps who voted for trump because he planned on being a billionaire through the powerball.

    People would rather live in the reality of their fantasies than our current one… Which is why we need socialism.

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    I am poor and the government is taking away a good chunk of my money. I don’t think it’s going to the poor though…

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    nobody believed they were poor when that word had more meaning. back in the day poor meant shopping at the salvation army, and it meant driving a 20 year old datsun that wouldn’t start without spraying carburator fluid, and it meant flashing food stamps at the local grocery when a carton of eggs was 39 cents. poor people had to go up on the telephone pole to install cable TV back then, nowadays they can pirate entertainment.

    nowadays a poor can still have 5k in credit and drive a BMW that came off the assembly line in the last 10 years. back then, a poor wouldn’t even have a color TV unless they inherited it from their uncle johnny.

    the life of the poor hasn’t gotten better in real terms but their lifestyle is much better at projecting class inward and outward.