Israeli forces killed a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they appeared to surrender to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.”
    • perestroika@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      1 day ago

      [email protected] wrote:

      and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting

      False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims’ bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.

        • perestroika@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          17 hours ago

          Stop bluffing, unless you know what it takes to get an organ successfully transplanted to someone. And I see you don’t.

          A really simple rule: if one would intend to get transplantable organs, one would not drop construction material on the person. One would transport the person to a hospital without any delay. Doctors would be the persons telling of which violations are happening.

          As things are, both Israel and some other countries (Russia) have the habit of returning the bodies of some prisoners who died under suspicious circumstances without some organs. For example, an Ukrainian journalist’s body was returned without her brain and throat. No, she’s not living in another body, brain transplants are fantasy. She was likely strangled to death and organs removed to conceal torture.

          I am currently under the impression that this practise serves the purpose of concealing torture (or other crimes) in several places, with one exception - China.

          China has been credibly accused of actually harvesting organs from prisoners executed in prisons. This is feasible for them, since a prisoner after execution can be tested before they are killed, and is immediately available for dissection and cooling of organs, which can then be rushed to an airport for sending to the correct hospital. I have good reason to suspect it’s happening. Needless to say, it’s an extremely serious crime.

          However, I have not heard of any successful (no matter whether voluntary or forced) organ donation from a person who experienced circulatory death in field conditions and was transported slowly from a considerable distance. Jenin is in the West Bank. Do you think doctors in the West Bank would accommodate a request from the IDF to remove, test and cool organs for from a shooting victim for transplantation? I don’t think even Israeli doctors would.

          If you think differently, I would like to see evidence.

          As the thread tells us, IDF committed two war crimes: shooting prisoners and desecrating their bodies. There is no need to spread silly rumours on top of that. Reality is bad enough.

          • answersplease77@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            9 hours ago

            First, there are hundreds of pieces of evidence and doctor testimonies proving that the IOF have been organ harvesting their hostages.

            Secondly regarding this case, I hope you’re right and I hope the IOF are incapable of doing further crimes to these bodies. It’s also a sad relief that the they just executed them instead of torturing them to death as the IOF have been doing to whoever they capture.