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    From what I’ve read it sounds like they’re attempting a bourgeois revolution. Historically, it doesn’t bode well for the working class there, and eventually even for the revolutionaries themselves. I’d be happy to be proven wrong though.

    I don’t particularly care for the Iranian government (they support Palestine and are anti-imperialist, but they have some really shitty policies at home). That said, the most likely outcome if the revolutionaries succeed is the US installing a puppet fascist government, most likely reinstating the Shah. It can get so much worse from here, just look at Syria.

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      “Some shitty policies” is an astonishing euphemism for a government just murdered 10k+ protesters and is actively using rape, murder, and maiming as weapons to terrorize its people into compliance.

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        I agree it’s fucked up what Khamenei is doing. Even before the protests the government had some awful policies when it came to human rights of the Iranian people. The protestors have every right to be angry and fuck shit up.

        But judging by their slogans, a lot of them are aligning themselves with their fundamental enemies - imperialists whose sanctions have led the country to its current economic state.

        Unless a revolution is staunchly anti-imperialist, it is bound to be co-opted by the US to set up a puppet government and extract as much labor & resources as they can muster, by any means necessary. Remember that the last time the Shah came to power, the protests were founded in real issues and grievances of the population, and look at the outcome. Look at the outcome for Syria or almost any Arab Spring country. I guess for many Iranians getting US to support them seems like the only way to win, in which case it’s a real catch-22. Maybe it will turn out that this iteration of the monarchist government will be slightly better than the clerical one, but looking at the state of US right now it’s unlikely.

        I am heartbroken about this whole thing, because those people are clearly fighting for a better future for themselves, and they’re getting slaughtered for it. But it is likely that their sacrifice will be for nothing.

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          The current regime has been enforcing a gender apartheid system for over 45 years. I reserve the same hatred for these fuckers like I do for Netanyahu and Trump.

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            Yeah, but the monarchist protestors want to reinstate the US-backed Pahlavi dynasty in the form of Reza Pahlavi.

            His father Mohammad, the last US-installed Shah of Iran has literally said this in an interview:

            Women are wicked, evil, all of them … Women haven’t produced anything, no scientists, they’re pretty creatures

            And has repeatedly referred to women as sexual objects existing only for his gratification.

            Reza himself has been quiet on women’s rights, never once denouncing either his father’s views or the currently existing gender inequality in Iran.

            I guess it wasn’t very socially acceptable to be that misogynistic in the US after the 70s or so. Maybe he will finally speak out now that Trump made this kind of discourse mainstream again.

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              I feel really icky defending a prince, but Reza Kiri has, on multiple occasions, denounced the gender apartheid in Iran.

              His father being misogynistic, like any patriarch, does not negate the fact that women are de facto second class citizens in Iran. Their testimony in court is worth less than that of a man, their right to divorce is severely limited and let’s not forget how Mahsa Amini got beaten to death for not wearing her hijab correctly.