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I know it’s much easier said than done; but I just wish the world as a whole would put more effort into diplomatic relations instead of just bombing eachother into ‘compliance’.
We don’t all have to like each other and work together; but if we could stop burning each others houses down, that’d be great.
Hopefully that’s not an unpopular opinion…
As nice as that would be, the unfortunate reality is that’s just not a realistic solution. You can’t put the cat back in the bag, so to speak.
The technology is already known; If everyone agreed to disarm, each party would just be even more worried about nations potentially ignoring that agreement and their now lack of defense against it.
The biggest reason I’m not all that concerned about Iran having nukes is the fact that so many nations are already nuclear armed. The use of nuclear weapons is so hated globally that they can only really be used in defence. If any individual nation chose to use their nukes offensively, the inevitable response from everyone else would mean the decision is suicide.
If Iran acquired nukes, then used them on say, Israel; America at the very least would turn Iran into a nuclear wasteland. I’m sure there are other nations that would join in, even if just on principle.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework
As far as the NonProliferation Treaty goes, they are threatening to leave it, but haven’t actually yet.
The rest of the world says the same about America.
‘Terrorist’ isn’t a way of life, it’s the perspective of those against you.
Why are they saying ‘death to America’?
Because America won’t leave them alone. America started this shit, and continues to retaliate over and over for it’s own fuck ups comming back to bite it.
Obviously Iran is going to hate them and say things like ‘Death to America’ when America just wont stop giving them reasons to.
Maybe if America can demonstrate proper restraint and just leave the country to it’s own afairs, truly show themselves to NOT be an enemy of Iran, perhaps even an ally given sufficient time to heal; Iran will no longer feel the need to defend themselves against an immanent threat, whether real or perceived.
Bombing them sends the opposite message.
Yes, they have been seeking nukes since at lease the 90s, probably earlier, as around the 70s America on behalf of Britain orchestrated a coup and dismantled the countries progress, all so Britain could continue fucking Iran out of its oil and the profit they need to develop.
As far as the present goes;
I don’t know whether they were going for nukes specifically, or instead were developing civilian energy projects that produce/use the same if not very similar products; and that stockpile enabled them to pursue both.
Honestly I didn’t care. While I generally don’t think ANYONE should have nukes, the US and Russia keep proving over and over again that that is the only deterrent you can actually rely on; so I can totally understand various nations drive to ensure they actually get some peace. If Iran feels they want/need nukes to keep themselves safe; well power to em, unfortunately they are correct.
Leave them the fuck alone. Stop providing them with more and more reason to fucking despise the west and it’s allies; continually proving they HAVE to fight back to continue to exist. Continuing to attack isn’t turning them away from nukes, it’s hardening their resolve and proving further why nukes are necessary. Why do you think they felt it necessary to build a facility 200m under a damn mountain??
Afraid they’re going to use their nukes offensively? Then stop giving them reasons to. Actually show some progress towards world peace instead of of just bombing everyone that has a slightly different world view.
Wouldn’t you hold a grudge after having your rapid progress towards technological and ideological growth completely derailed by a coup orchestrated by a foreign power that plunged your country into decades of chaotic religious fanaticism which suppresses freedom/human rights to this day?
Especially when that foreign power continues to threaten your existence and expand into territory surrounding you?
Well, maybe if foreign countries would leave them the fuck alone to do things like control and develop their own infrastructure and natural resources; they wouldn’t require nuclear weapons just to get some peace and quiet.
The last couple decades has proven that’s the only deterrent that actually works.
That’s fair. I think it kind of depends on how much you interact with creators and their communities. (comment sections, comunity posts, live content, etc)
I haven’t browsed Reddit since the creation of my Lemmy account (~2years ago); though I’ve wound up viewing a Reddit thread or two via a google search on rare occasion. Beyond those two, the only other ‘social media’ I’ve used in at least a decade is Youtube.
‘Could’ vs ‘are’.
They may not have been, but they could if they wanted to, supposedly.
Now, if they didnt before, they certainly have the motivation and arguably the justification.
I certainly wouldn’t blame them for seeking out nuclear weapons now.
For months, masked individuals with no police agency markings have been leaping out of unmarked vehicles that have no licence plates, refusing to identify themselves in any way, then kidnapping people off of the streets; and not one of them has faced any true resistance.
What the fucked has happened to America. Is “hey don’t do that”, really all you’ve got???