I don’t get how cars will go into and out of this without being a giant fucking shit show

Oh my God enough of this. Being a leader in industries like space during the early days of a new space race literally helps Canada and Canadians. Brush your teeth and stop with this pity party

That’s a good point. None of them seemed to understand tariffs, but honestly, neither did I. I’m still just a casual observer. What I want to know is where’s the data? We’re months into tariffs, and I’ve yet to see any real analysis, just feel-good stories about Canadians boycotting the U.S. or U.S. towns begging for forgiveness. But what are the actual numbers?

This lack of follow-up, of concrete outcomes, leaves me pessimistic. So many leftist apparently, are any of them in economics? Are they not posting online? If they are, are we not sharing that?

We should be acting like relays in an information network. That’s what the right did so well in 2016. I watched them build networks like a slime mold. Fake accounts collecting random users and then connecting those into bigger ones like Charlie Kirk, Bannon, or Bongino.

On the left we did the opposite. Voices who weren’t even that political, scientists, educators, got torn down by our own side. I saw it: people mocking Neil deGrasse Tyson, attacking Bill Nye, even Bill Gates. Anyone targeted by Libs of TikTok should’ve had a wall of support drowning that crap out. Instead, we told each other “don’t wrestle with pigs.

Just look at our methods to engage. Don’t tell me there’s the biggest turn out for a protest and then turn around and tell me those mother fuckers will show up in the heat under threat of arrest and still cannot be bothered to create or share content to shut Charlie Kirk up. I’m nothing but pissed off at every protester because it shows how willing people are to just show up and go home for what? What did that protest do?

Libsotiktok a single Twitter account targeted educators across the country and harassed teachers for having rainbows in their class. Fuck those protesters for drawing all this energy up into a single moment that does fucking nothing. Fuck every single one of those protestors for showing up and failing to build a single network that can match that libs of tiktok bullshit. It’s like when Democrats made their little signs and held them up. I have the same frustration towards that as I do towards these “protests” lately.

That mindset, that it’s beneath us to engage, is the problem. Disengagement isn’t noble. It’s surrender. We gave up the space. And they took it.

Fuck, this was happening when my younger sister was going to bars. It wasn’t a thing I was aware of when I was younger. But I remember my sister saying 15 years ago that people were slipping drugs into drinks for this same reason. It was just to fuck with people

Ok, I agree. But isn’t us saying “they’re all brainwashed idiots” also a part of the shared talking point and us being in lock step?

Like where is that line drawn between theirs is crazy manipulation and ours is greater and good.

This is kind of my point and why I don’t like a lot of the way we approach things on the left. Saying “they’re all brainwashed”, “they’re racist”, “they’re X, Y or Z” act like these conversation stoppers. Like reading between the lines, it basically is us saying well it is what it is no need to look further into this, they’re just evil for these reasons and that’s that.

For me, I don’t think they’re evil or racist or anything they often get accused of. I find they’re actually more informed and their reasoning does have some logic to it. I keep getting frustrated on things because it seems to me like the left is losing because they really are less informed and reality based. Lately it seems more about a focus on how morally aligned something is rather than really figuring out why something is happening. Like saying how ICE covers their face because they don’t want to be doxxed. Ok but why don’t they want to be doxxed. Maybe there is something more there. I’ve heard it suggests these could not be actual ICE but some type of private contractor situation. Kind of a big deal to identify these officers if they are hell bent on not being identified. But instead as a whole it’s like we can’t investigate that because they wear masks because they’re racist. Simple answer. Put that to bed.

This gets repeated over and over again. Go on any post here on Lemmy in politics and see a hundred comments saying the same lock step unoriginal uninformative “they’re racist” “they’re bad”. Go on a right wing post on Reddit and top comments are people linking to other articles giving context and latest updates. I’m just getting tired of hearing the people who seem to be more informed and on top of things get called stupid when I’m starting to think it’s the other way around and it’s just a frustrating situation to constantly see.

What credible reason and sources do you have to support that there was some kind of threat that deserved an invasion?

Also American media is corrupt no doubt. But that doesn’t make RT today equal or superior. RT will do what American media did during the Iraq war just with much greater bullshit and less credibility.

As far as I’ve seen. There’s a good reason to believe what you said is pretty much a bullshit line from the Kremlin similar to WMD in Iraq. Which a lot of us here recognize because we’ve been through it.

I don’t even know. Like my dad isn’t tech savvy. But yet he still has a lot of these pipelines. I think it’s just Fox News and some random news sources. For at least a year though, every time I see him he’s asking he something I’m not even aware of and within a week or two I start to see it spread in my feeds.

That’s what I’m hearing of too. I’ll honestly admit if Trump pulled this move and it leads to a regime change. Fuck I’ll give it to him as a ballsy move that worked. I would think at this point if it works, and I were to deny the victory I would be doing it just because I don’t like Trump and I think that’s something I don’t want to do just out of spite.

My family that are big trump supporters were saying for a while now that there are plans for an Iranian regime change. That is something they are working towards. Like day off the bombing I was being asked if I had heard anything about this regime change. I hadn’t, go fucking figure.

Not sure why the left fails to stay current on things. But this article is crazy how it’s being presented as “omg he says no regime change but then says MIGA”

Republicans and Trump supporters have known about these intentions for weeks. Their information is not like the information we’re getting and it’s weird as fuck to jump between the two worlds. The left is so far behind the times.

It’s not like this is a one time thing. I keep getting asked things by trump supporters that I’ve never seen or heard about. Weeks later I start to see the left wing social spaces pick up on it like it’s news.

What’s the problem with your understanding of allowed here?

You think it’s their choice lol

What’s the alternative? Is that a regime who vocally says they will kill my children are allowed to get nukes?

That I should be ok with that because peace and love and hugs?

For sure, but Iran doesn’t have many options do they? I think by blow over, I mean they’ll retaliate in the way these countries do. They will signal their attack loudly and early. USA and Israel will have time to prepare. Iran attacks. America says fuck you and does a return. Iran again does another attack with a huge signal to say look we’re retaliating. Then it’s all back to business as usual. Everybody gets to say they did something and they’re all big bad boys.

I totally agree trump fucked the deal. He’s an absolute narcissist. He wants to tear down anything from Democrats. He wants to put his name on everything.

But at the end of the day, I’m kind of rooting for him here. I’m hoping this all blows over quickly and we’re in a world where Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons is crippled

This is a pretty toxic opinion

Maybe?

Why do they deserve that?

How does it benefit you?

Then what are these facilities?

Would American intelligence reveal that they know they’re building nukes if they had that information?

Honestly part of me is agreeing that bombing these sites was good as long as they were building towards a nuke. If all this blows over in a month like a lot of things do lately, it is a bit of a safer world.

I just saw another video of Theo Von clearly struggling with his support of Trump. I’ve seen so many others in that same position. On one hand, yeah, it’s easy to call them idiots for not seeing it sooner. But on the other, I get it. You go from being a comedian to suddenly part of this powerful inner circle, and that kind of validation is intoxicating, especially for someone with addiction issues who’s always chasing a high.

What frustrates me is how we, especially on the left, tend to fumble these moments. Instead of recognizing that some of these people might be waking up, we rush to humiliate them. We waste the opportunity to build something better just so we can rub their faces in it and get our own little high.

That’s something that really pisses me off about the left: the way we seize the worst possible opportunities and completely ignore the critical ones. Right now, yeah, some MAGA influencers are doubling down. But others? They’re starting to crack. And instead of isolating them even more, maybe we should be thinking about how to help them speak about their shift in perspective.

Maybe we need a new way to approach school. I don’t think I agree with turning education into a competition where the difficulty is curved towards the most competitive creating a system that became so difficult that students need to edge each other out any way they can.