probably already fucked up by talking about it.

I don’t think so. If we get to the point they have time and resources to tack down stuff like that, we’re badly losing the fight.

Organizing is as easy as meeting your neighbors and starting a group chat to keep an eye on each other and maybe exchange information and resources. Rome wasn’t built in a day and all that. Focus on making connections to those closest to you and your network will grow organically from there.

Organizing is effective too. It’s a lot harder for them to take someone when it’s John, the electrician who gave you a hand fixing your kitchen light and not just “the guy in the blue house.”

How many people that are progressive or liberal or you know not right wing and are low-key infiltrating ice right now for the greater good?

Zero ;)

Here’s two:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-citizen-detained-ice-told-his-real-id-fake-2076724

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-says-us-citizen-s-birth-certificate-is-fake-after-arresting-her-attorneys/ar-AA1SDQ6G

I say we dox this asshole instead

Who wants to bet Machado offered Trump the Nobel Prize in exchange for kidnapping Maduro?

It’s not just that. It’s also a terror tactic and a flaunt of their power. If we fight back, they fight back harder. If we don’t fight back, their revolution succeeds without a drop of blood being spilled. Don’t accept their tyranny out of fear of retaliation. The regime will claim we’re revolting at their leisure, regardless of what we do.

This is what real non-violent resistance looks like

I see that as a good thing. People who are just in it for the money are more likely to resist, especially if they realize there are more of them than the ones doing it for the love of the game.

In a vacuum, I’d agree with you. But the recent increase in recruitment effort and decrease in recruit screening would seem to suggest otherwise.

Even if you don’t get selected or want to join, every moment they spend processing bogus applications is a moment they can’t spend processing legitimate ones. You can resist by simply bogging down the system with AI-generated fake resumes.

ICE is not doomed to fail. But they and this regime will be their most vulnerable in these early stages. A swift, coordinated resistance is required to make the most of this time.

Yeah, I agree with you. The assertion was that no one was ever fired for saying anything about Obama, and all I’m saying is that’s not the case.

Sabotaging illegal orders is enforcing the law.

She should mail a bunch of butt plugs to the Pentagon.

YSK if ICE thinks you’re too brown, they’ll just say yours is fake and deport you anyway. It’s already happened to US citizens.

They’re already spread thin in MN, this will only make that worse. They’re already desperate to fill their ranks with enough bodies, this will only make that worse.

ICE is currently, and is likely to remain, susceptible to infiltration by resistors.

Any able-bodied people who are interested in offering non-violent resistance to preserve democracy should consider whether they’re willing to exploit this opportunity.

A government derives its authority from the consent of the governed. The governed offer their consent as part of a social contract. The government’s role in that contract is to represent the will of the governed by enforcing the laws passed by our representatives.

The reason it’s easy for us to expect them to remain and enforce the law, is because that’s what they promised us in exchange for following their laws and paying their taxes.

Public servants have an obligation to the general public that overrides all other priorities. If you’re not prepared to use your powers to resist fascism, or even corruption, on behalf of the public you serve, you shouldn’t pursue a career in public service.

We consent to following their rules in exchange for them representing our will; that is the social contract between a government and her governed people.

“Oh, yeah, you see how they checked this box here? That means we also need a DD-2319 form signed in triplicate here. That’ll need to be approved by two levels of management, so we’ll need to form a committee to assess its suitability before raising it for a vote during our Change Control Board meeting, which only occurs monthly. Sorry about that. Don’t worry, I’ll get it fast-tracked for you.”

Yeah, I could see that working, IF training requirements matched the authorized use of force.

The big problem in the US is that most local PDs look more like SWAT teams, but lack the appropriate training to make responsible choices with the power they’ve been given. My vision involves both de-militarizing the police, along with increasing training requirements for the ones remaining.

It’s absolutely absurd that we give gear and equipment to military soldiers with years of training, send them to an active war zone on the other side of the world, and tell them they have to follow rules when they use that gear and equipment in an act of force against an enemy combatants.

Then, we take that same gear and equipment, give it to police officers with 6 weeks of training, and tell them they’re immune from any prosecution resulting from an act of force against a US citizen.

Literally, enemy combatants fighting a war against our military have more rights and protections than tax-paying, law-abiding citizens on US soil simply interacting with police.

It sounds like you and I are in agreement, we’d like to see fewer gun deaths and less gun violence in the US. At the end of the day, I think you’ll have a hard time finding anyone who disagrees with that sentiment.

It sounds like we also agree, whatever measures are passed, we’d like them to be effective at taking guns out of the hands of those who would do harm with them.

The reason I oppose a ban is, bans disproportionately affect law-abiding gun owners, and the overwhelming majority (over 99%) of gun owners in the US abide by the law and commit no crimes with their guns. Bans overwhelmingly succeed at disarming responsible owners who had no bad intentions in the first place, and overwhelmingly fail at disarming the criminals at whom the bans are targeted.

Additionally, there are about 5-6 guns per US gun-owner. The logistics of safely locating, safely confiscating, and safely disposing of all of those guns in a way that doesn’t end up with them on the black market, is not a problem I think anyone has a good way to solve currently. I assert, the logistics of addressing societal factors that contribute to violence are much simpler, better understood, and more achievable.