It wasn’t rigged. Even if it were rigged, it should never have been close enough to be rigged, but it wasn’t rigged. If the DNC waited to say it was rigged, they are still waiting because they haven’t said they think it’s rigged, but their not waiting, because it wasn’t rigged.
They really thought she’d be worse?
For the love of God, please stop spreading this mode of thinking. Elections are won by enthusiasm, not an intellectual weighing of the pros and cons of each. This is the model Democrats have used for decades that got us here. Being the lesser evil is not a solid campaign strategy. The greater evil will always get more attention, and therefore enthusiasm.
I don’t think this is an exclusively American thing. Did Brits really think brexit was a good idea?
Not all Democrats are in sync with party leadership though.
The President isn’t the problem. He’s certainly “a” problem, but let’s not pretend that Vance is going to be any better.
Get rid of all the corrupt Republicans (redundant phrase), and you will still have MAGA, the silicon valley tech bros, a corrupt financial system, white/Christian nationalists, and the military industrial complex.
Then we have the Democrats who have proven themselves over and over again to be incapable of standing up against any of these groups.
Whatever we protest for, any result worth the effort has to address the systemic failures that led to the Trump presidency. Anything less is performative at best.
We need an inverse lottery. The top 100 most wealthy Americans are automatically added to a pool and one is drawn at random each year. Then we confiscate everything they own, put them in the street, and see if they can get rich again.
That’s kind of my point. It’s turtles all the way down.
The Natives “moved” to Texas to steal it from the previous group of natives.
Yeah, just look at that idiot in charge. Don’t think about the idiots who lost an election to him.
What guard did we try to change? It was still Pelosi, Schumer, and Kamala Harris who literally ran on not changing anything from the Biden administration. There was no changing of the guard, and yeah, look what happened. Harris ran the perfect establishment campaign, we lost, and the establishment learned nothing.
I voted for Harris. She let us down, not the other way around. Fuck letting them do it again. Even if they got elected, they aren’t up to governing this nation as it is now. They don’t have the backbone, the imagination, or the leadership to fix what they allowed Trump to do in this country.
Republicans inspire anger and lead people to hate. Democrats inspire nothing and lead people nowhere. Then Democrats are surprised when they can’t win because people are angry and hateful. They drove the party and this country into the ground.
Have we met? What the fuck are you talking about about? Providing weapons and international support for an active genocide is not a great campaign strategy. You don’t win elections by claiming to kill less children than the other guy. No matter how true it might be, it’s not exactly going to lift grass roots enthusiasm.
The Democrats let the party deteriorate to the point that Trump successfully ran as the peace candidate, and the workers’ candidate. It’s fucking pathetic that they just let him run away with that, but how do you counter it while supporting a genocide?
I’m not whining, and I’m not living with it. I’m recognizing that the Democratic establishment is the first enemy that must be defeated before we have a chance to beat the Republicans. Until we have a changing of the guard, the gates will always be insecure.
Oh, drop this shit already. When the Democrats run one shit candidate after another they are going to lose sometimes. Learn to live with it, or get them to offer better candidates. All this whining is getting pathetic.
That group is infuriating. The worst are the ones that drag Democratic primaries to the right, then vote Republican anyways.
Cuomo was projected to be ahead after the first round. The election was going to be a question of whether or not Mamdani’s certain gains in subsequent rounds would be enough to catch up. Mamdani being so far ahead after the first round meant Cuomo was done.
The people you are talking about about will never remove their cranial bowel obstructions, but their twisted forms can be removed from the Democratic party by voters.
but to keep the brown natural-born citizens who voted for him from realizing
Um, what? He has better support from wealthy whites than from racial minorities.
You are way understating his odds at winning the general.
Your implicit argument that so-called “centrist” Democrats are better at winning purple states because voters all exist along a simple left to right spectrum is absolutely wrong. The people in this country are fed up and they want revolution. Republicans offered it, and Democrats didn’t. The rightward lurch was just an artifact of people rationalizing their vote and conforming to the stereotype on offer.
One big excuse the Democratic establishment gave was that the world is in an anti-incombancy mood. That’s a correct observation, but what is really happening is the death of neoliberalism everywhere. The one big outlier to the trend was Mexico where an aging male President successfully handed the reigns over to his protege, a younger woman. The difference is, they were progressives. Mexico is also arguably a more religiously conservative country than America.
The wonky framing of the US electorate has been the standard Democratic perspective for decades. It’s what led to the income inequality we have now. It’s what led to Trump, and the complete routing of Democrats in both federal and state governments. For the love of God, wake up already.
The Democrats don’t win because they aren’t real people, they are characters on TV that people are sick of. Neoliberalism drains the blood and passion that people want to see in leadership. Republicans have it, and Democrats don’t. It’s past time that changed.
I’ll bet fewer people will fall for Trump’s lies than fell for GWB’s, but not because we learned from Iraq. This war is really unpopular with MAGA. It’s for the wrong reasons, but I don’t think most will flip to Trump on this one.
Democrats might be interesting to watch. They are mostly cucked to Israel, but they won’t want to pass on the opportunity to snipe at Trump.
We elected Biden on mostly anti-Trump sentiment then forgot and elected Trump again 4 years later. I think 20 years is more than enough time.
Agreed on the media part, but that’s a very old conspiracy.
I hate to use the word “conspiracy” on it - first because it implies that it’s a “conspiracy theory” when most of it happens in plain sight, and second because it’s less of a cabal and more just a bunch of rich folks with common interests acting in common ways.
Which parts read as unhinged to you?
Jumping right from claiming that Trump over-performing (compared to down-ticket races) more in swing states than other states leads straight to the conclusion that a “vote changing algorithm” must be responsible for the difference is a big one. There are other perfectly plausible explanations. For instance, maybe anti-establishment sentiment is part of what makes a purple state purple, and anti-establishment Trump voters are more likely to split their ticket. The analysis offered is incredibly shallow, and seems to rely entirely on statistical analysis without considering sociological context. I’m also curious why a group so competent as to be able to pull this off wouldn’t have tipped votes in down-ticket races as well.
On the other hand, a lot of the voter suppression claims are very plausible, and some are even obviously true. It’s almost not revelatory at all to say that Republicans use voter suppression to win races. Specifics of particular instances are worth questioning, but Republicans have been doing it in the open for decades, and it has definitely blown up in the time since the court gutted the voting rights act.
There is also the general over-reliance on a single expert, who is apparently “the leading U.S. expert in election forensics”. Looking at his citations, that title is not justified by his academic career. What I see is some mild success early on, and a decade+ drift towards irrelevance. I see a career that could maybe benefit from a prominent association with a media frenzy over a stolen US election.
As a hopelessly straight American, I second the motion.