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Cake day: June 16th, 2023
  • isyasad@lemmy.worldtoYou Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.
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    12 days ago

    Also, I don’t think anybody honestly believes the argument that it is immoral to have children “without their consent.” The idea that you cannot do anything to someone else without their consent is a very useful idea in 95% of situations, and this is clearly one in which it does not apply. I did not consent to being born, but I would have if I could. Imagine a bureaucracy in which to apply for a passport, you needed to have an existing passport. It just doesn’t work. I can see the logic, but the idea has failed on a functional level. You can apply this to anything and make fake disingenuous arguments for any cause: “I don’t think we should elect a president unless they’ve already been president before. I think it’s a role where you absolutely need to have prior experience.” “You need to consent before being born. Since it’s impossible to do so, I guess it’s just immoral to have children.” See: Catch-22.

    It is more difficult to have children now than it was 20, 40, 60 years ago. Some people feel the need to further justify their decision by convincing themselves that would be immoral to do anything else.