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  • Seems like it doesn’t have to be forcing communities to thrive, so much as exploring the Fediverse and having fun as a group effort. Hopefully some people would stick around in each community afterwards. I think it’s worth trying, the Fediverse is small enough that even a little bit of group effort is maybe enough to reach critical mass, and a little bit of splintering is enough to prevent it.

    I think you’d want moderator buy-in, or someone willing to step up as moderator. It seems much more likely to fail if there’s a group effort like this on a community where the moderator(s) aren’t around anymore or don’t care for outside help. You’d probably also want to determine if memes/low effort posts are allowed or not for a given community.

    I’m willing to help out as I’m able, and I volunteer !outofcontextcomics@lemmy.world as a good candidate. I’m a moderator there, but really just secondary. It’s great example of a community that’s kind of dormant (ever since @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world stopped posting), but it’s not dead. I’ve been meaning to post more, but haven’t gotten around to it, and if there was a group effort that would give me an excuse to prioritize it.

    I’d also be a big fan of keeping such organization efforts here in !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and not creating a new community just for that, imo wider communities are better, and should only be split off when they’re big enough on their own. Maybe a weekly stickied thread? It would also be nice to be able to opt-in to getting message pings, it’s easy to forget and miss it in your feed.

    Also, a related effort would be getting people to comment! Even a quick short comment is much better than upvotes, imo.







  • I think we generally agree with each other. The existence of an omniscient AI or deity doesn’t change the “experience” of free will. It doesn’t “invalidate choice” from the point of view of the observed. It does “invalidate choice” from the point of view of the observer, who can now say “This thing exhibits no unpredictable behavior to me”. You and I both think we have free will, because we can’t predict our own behavior. Our experience is unchanged, whether or not some other observer exists or could exist that could predict our behavior.

    Agreeing on a frame of reference is exactly my point. “Does something have free will?” requires the follow-up question, “According to whom?”. Just like “I’m far from that rock” requires the followup question, “According to whom?”. The ant might think you’re far from the rock, something else might think you’re near the rock.

    To boil it down a bit more, my point is just that you can always replace the phrase “free will” in speech with “unpredictable behavior” without loss of meaning, because that is what people actually mean when they say it, whether they realize that or not.




  • Free will is incompatible with omniscience. People really want it to work, but it doesn’t.

    Free will is observer-dependent, and is short for “I can’t predict the behavior of this thing”. For an omniscient observer, there is no thing that it can say that about.

    Free will is not an inherent property of a thing, and that’s what trips people up so much.

    To ponder it a bit, does a rock have free will? A dog? A human? A super-intelligent AI that we can’t hope to comprehend? Why or why not for each step?

    The definition above explains it all. Of course a rock doesn’t, we can predict its behavior with physics! Maybe a monkey does, people disagree on that. Of course human do though, because I do!

    Now ponder what the super-intelligent AI would think. “Of course the first three don’t have free will, their behavior is entirely predictable with physics”