insurrection

“That’s what you said.”

no, it’s not

if it were literally what i was saying, you could link it instead of writing words that i did not (and would not) write.

this is a strawman.

they’re not wrong, at least they’re not any more wrong than utilitarians or divine command theorists.

"“you value your life more than a life of an insect, therefore there are different types of animals, therefore one has all the rights and the others can be tortured and exploited” "

this isn’t what i said. it’s a strawman.

“That’s not what those words in that order mean.”

yea, it is.

“You’re doing “fallacy fallacy” but badly.”

no, i wasn’t, but you are now.

some vegans will twist themselves into pretzels to justify crop deaths for the things they consume. or, put another way, vegans justify crop deaths.

" what the fuck are you even trying to say by this quote"

that you are demonstrating how treating animals and humans differently is essential. we don’t think it’s ok to spray toxic chemicals over whole populations of people, but doing so to crop-destroying insects is widely accepted practice.

“a biological essentialist vivisection enthusiast with weird ideas about strict structures, that were frowned upon in the 80th when he was writing them”

this is pure ad hominem. it’s called poisoning the well. what they say is either true or false, and the individual making the claim doesn’t change the truth value

“Animals (that is, nonhuman animals, the ordinary sense of that word) lack this capacity for free moral judgment. They are not beings of a kind capable of exercising or responding to moral claims. Animals therefore have no rights, and they can have none”

this is exactly what deontologists believe

circular reasoning is internally consistent.

Carl Cohen said “Speciesism is not merely plausible; it is essential for right conduct, because those who will not make the morally relevant distinctions among species are almost certain, in consequence, to misapprehend their true obligations.” and you are demonstrating this for everyone right here

I thought you were done

the producers are paid long before I walk into a store

people produce things for all sorts of reasons

oversimplifying the situation doesn’t make it simple.

have a nice day

>Don’t try to evade the question, give me a yes or no answer.

this is a classic indicator of a false dilemma.

>The people eat meat and other animal products, the more animals will be killed to meet that demand.

not only is this not causal, it doesn’t even hold up. how many 8-Bit nintendos do I need to buy to get 8-bit nintendos back into production? how many Faberge eggs do I need to buy to put fabergé eggs back into production?