So your goalpost is a world record? No trans, non-binary, etc. individual I can find has set a world record in any sport.
Yeah? No shit they haven’t, born men aren’t allowed to compete against women. I recon there are thousands of athletes that could decide to transition to female and beat the world records for women.
winning against the best in competition
It’s axiomatic. The best means the best. Objectively. Fastest, highest, longest, game won. You understand?
Chris Mosier seems like someone who consistently does win in those competitions.
Participating in the Olympics, only to not even finish isn’t exactly winning though.
I could find one victory in total, which was a smaller size meet for men over 40. Truly the best. Not bashing effort in any way, he likely puts in a lot of work. All athletes do.
Guarantee that you don’t. I know that from how you talk about sports. The fact that you try to shoehorn the only logical fallacy that you know the name of is telling of your intention to just antagonize without any analysis or thought.
That’s unfortunately how genetics works.
That’s fair. Changing it by medication or doping isn’t.
I thought being assigned female at birth made someone inherently and irreversibly weaker and so they would be non-competitive in men’s sports /s.
I gave it as an example for you to understand the position. Clearly it didn’t work.
There is no example of a trans male winning against the best men in competition. Just the other way around. But then again we haven’t tested how far people might go in their roiding.
Chances are that they like a different team.
If your concern is about “unfair advantages gained via doping” then the majority of trans women competing are being much more fair because they are undergoing HRT to bring the “doping” back to within the typical woman baseline.
This is the issue at hand. How can you possibly justify reverse doping when none is allowed? This introduction of alteration that isn’t and can’t be available for everyone is inherently unfair. It also is troublesome in the opposite direction. What is then the legal limit for doping of a trans male? Can they take as much as they want since it’s part of their condition?
Thanks. Keep your politics out of the sports that you don’t even like.
There is no confusion about her sex. She was born as a woman and she considers herself a woman (not that it matters for sports, only that she was born as one)
Obviously taking drugs to match would be incredibly wrong. Just like doping is wrong.
This is how you started the conversation but all of a sudden I’m being condescending.
Ye, it was a made up scenario completely irrelevant to the pic.
But they only get to be unfair the in the ways that you decide right?
Nope. Just by random chance in genes or by agreed upon rules. And a vast majority seems to agree that born men shouldn’t be allowed in the womens division. Seems pretty cut and dry.
We’ve always done it this way! What a great reason to keep doing something and never reflect and change for the better!
There is nothing to reflect on. Other than maybe having a trans-only category. If anyone would care to have one. Trans are already allowed to compete in the open category, aka mens.
Or you could remove womens sport all together, as that seems to be what you’re implying. Something i would be vehemetely against
Barring a syndrome, there is direct cause between being born with sex chromosomes and hormone shifts during puberty.
A rare example would be Caster Semenya. I 100% think she should be allowed to compete as a woman, as she was born as one. Even if her hormones are raised due to mutation.
Please loose the condescending tone.
Sports are of course both fair and unfair. But i find your example hilarious. LeBron James? Ah yes, the boy raised in a shithole, dirt poor by a single mother, but happened to both be exceptional at both working at his craft AND was lucky with the gene lottery.
There isn’t a better example of the greatness of sport, but you try to twist it to be a negative 😂
It’s as far from a random line in the sand as can be. Born men are not to compete against women. As long as there has existed womens sport, this rule exists implicitly, by definition.
Soft rules have never applied to the internet.
Things that you wouldn’t do afk, just because “those are the rules”, doesn’t apply when every empathy damaged person in the world with an internet connection can break them.
Only cause you made it that way.
Not if you went through puberty, no. But for the sake of their well being we call them women.
Yes, you did. We were talking about drugging to improve at sports and the morality of it. Then you made a weird non-sequiter about her length, like it had any baring on the conversation.
Well, thats like your opinion, man.
Unsurprisingly, people that like sport are happier.
Twitter was always brain rot. Never understood why people wanted exchanges that couldn’t exceed 140 character.
At least the other social media platforms had a function other than “random brain fart scribe”. Facebook was great for planning events in the beginning. Myspace had some great bands.
I don’t think they are. But thats just an opinion and all of that.
Laurel Hubbard was an average to poor male athlete that couldn’t qualify in mens competition that decided to change and won silver immediately.
Even if I don’t think she actually did transition to win at sports, the result is the same.
Thank you for making my point for me.