A draft emergency executive order to declare a national emergency to allow President Donald Trump to take unprecedented control over voting is being circulated by anti-voting activists who said they are in coordination with the White House.

Voting rights experts, democracy advocates, and at least one state election chief said Trump doesn’t have the authority to claim such powers — and any attempt would be blatantly unconstitutional.

The draft order — which is said to be based on a conspiracy theory that China interfered with the 2020 election — would allow Trump to unilaterally ban mail-in ballots and voting machines on the basis that they are susceptible to foreign interference.

The order comes from MAGA activists who have been coordinating with the White House. One of the advocates for the order is Peter Ticktin, the attorney for Tina Peters, the former GOP Colorado county clerk who is currently serving a nine-year state prison sentence for her role in a 2021 voting system breach, in an attempt to find voter fraud based on election conspiracies.

The Elections Clause of the U.S. Constitution explicitly gives states — not the president — sole authority over elections.

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    So who intervenes when he physically tries to control the election processes in states? Who certifies the election results, JD Vance?

    He can just claim any state election is fraudulent because they didn’t do what he said, reject the results in any state the gop didn’t win enough and argue the GOP reps can stay in power until an election happens the way he wants, all while claiming the gop definitely won a majority, with no proof. He will not admit to the loss of control of congress and will not leave the white house peacefully if he’s impeached.

    Americans had better get ready for a violent transfer of power. MAGA will believe dems stole the election this time and they won’t sit by and let government function, Trump will still be president while all this happens and use that authority to incite insurrection against the constitution.

    • Who certifies the election results, JD Vance?

      No. (de jure, at least, who knows what will actually happen in practice)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022

      The law identifies the governor – or, in the case of Washington, D.C., the district’s mayor – as responsible for submitting certificates of ascertainment, unless otherwise specified by state laws or constitutions. In addition, a certificate that was revised as ordered by a state or federal court judgment before the meeting of electors supersedes all previous certificates.

      The law clarifies that the vice president’s role in the counting of the electoral votes is “solely ministerial,” with no power to “determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.”

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        That’s what the law says. But they can just say different and we’re in conflict. Even if the courts decide against Trump, there no way to actually enforce that judgement.

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      Many states have the power to maintain state guards. This is a military force that cannot be federalized.

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        All it takes is the guardsmen or the chain of command doing what Trump says. Laws don’t matter right now. What people choose to do does.

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          Unless the army says no there is no mechanism for stopping them. As you said laws don’t matter. I feel they already won.

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            If they choose to follow Trump, there isn’t, no. They have to convince people to refuse Trump’s orders if they’re illegal or when he has no authority. Re-committing to the system of government and the rules of the distribution of power is necessary. Its hearts and minds right now. Follow Trump or follow the Constitution and its founding doctrines. You can’t serve both because Trump and the GOP have abandoned the constitution already. They can’t coexist.