From your weight and facial expressions to your destination, cars collect a startling amount of data about you. Some of it may even raise your insurance costs.
Doubleposting my comment from the other community this was posted to:
How hard would it be for a skilled person to disconnect the antenna/com-module (or disrupt connection in general) in a way that still allows for updates of the software, if I chose to install them?
Depends entirely on the car. On some vehicles the modem is incorporated into an electronics module that other parts of the vehicle rely on. Sabataging it may cause other things not to work or cause other problems. On some vehicles it’s fairly simple to do. Additionally accessing it may be a problem. not everyone is going to remove their dash or center console and on top of that doing so could potentially void your warranty for certain costly repairs.
it’s better to just buy older vehicles that can’t phone home anymore.
You could also build a kit car I guess, if you’re so inclined (I know most people aren’t), or buy a fleet vehicle. On a lot of fleet vehicles the modems aren’t hooked up depending on the contract.
I do wonder if it’s possible to order a vehicle without the modem. But then you wouldn’t be able to just walk into a show room and drive away with a new car.
The antenna cannot be buried within a car to work. Just wrap the antenna with foil or copper mesh. It won’t affect anything because data gets blocked in tunnels and the car does not shut down.
No need to knee jerk and go full Mad Max. Put away the leather chaps.
It would not be rocket science to relay your car output data to a device that then transmits data from a perfect driver. Flipper for cars.
Doubleposting my comment from the other community this was posted to:
How hard would it be for a skilled person to disconnect the antenna/com-module (or disrupt connection in general) in a way that still allows for updates of the software, if I chose to install them?
Depends entirely on the car. On some vehicles the modem is incorporated into an electronics module that other parts of the vehicle rely on. Sabataging it may cause other things not to work or cause other problems. On some vehicles it’s fairly simple to do. Additionally accessing it may be a problem. not everyone is going to remove their dash or center console and on top of that doing so could potentially void your warranty for certain costly repairs.
it’s better to just buy older vehicles that can’t phone home anymore.
You could also build a kit car I guess, if you’re so inclined (I know most people aren’t), or buy a fleet vehicle. On a lot of fleet vehicles the modems aren’t hooked up depending on the contract.
I do wonder if it’s possible to order a vehicle without the modem. But then you wouldn’t be able to just walk into a show room and drive away with a new car.
My goal is to keep repairing my old cars, and just keep retrofitting them until thats illegal.
I foresee big business with this. Its already popular with semi trucks. Buy a new or refurb chassis and put a crate engine in to bypass shit.
Just crazy we have allowed car mfgs to do this. I will never buy any new car, they are all shit. Time to start getting better at rust repair !
The antenna cannot be buried within a car to work. Just wrap the antenna with foil or copper mesh. It won’t affect anything because data gets blocked in tunnels and the car does not shut down.
No need to knee jerk and go full Mad Max. Put away the leather chaps.
It would not be rocket science to relay your car output data to a device that then transmits data from a perfect driver. Flipper for cars.
The antenna not working doesn’t stop the dealer from uploading that data from the car when you visit for service.
Most systems will allow for updates via USB, and this guy ripped out his Toyota’s modem and gps.