No , My 2003 Clio II 1.4L 16v would never betray and do that to me
Of course, there are benefits too. Internet-connected cars can be more convenient. The sensors they bristle with can make driving safer and more comfortable. Insurance companies could decide to charge you less because you’re such a good driver.
Yeah, that’s not how insurance companies work. That “could” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Insurance companies could decide to charge you less because you’re such a good driver.
I mean, for people in our (little but illustrious) bubble this reads like satire. But there are people out there who will blindly accept this kind of statement at face value and find it compelling; and they vote. Our world is a silly place
Interconnectedness and sensors dont have to be privacy nightmares, they just do that intentionally.
It makes you a better driver like gps makes you a better map reader.
All good, I only have a bike. The only electrical parts on it are the lights. Spy away
you’re carrying a phone.
The byds have this feature that hit the brakes hard if your eyes arent looking in front. Was surprised when the driver looked over his shoulder to check for traffic when merging at a stop. Just a small mod to save the video somewhere.
Not a fan. Imo cars shouldnt do anything the user doesnt intend.
something my trusty 2000’s fiat wouldn’t do
not to be a jerk just honestly the first time i have seen trusty and fiat in the same sentence
American prejudice, in Italy very trustworthy until the first 2000’s. No Fix It Again
Yeah same for my old cars, but there are only so many functional old cars out there. Really this is ultimately just one more signal that we need alternatives to car normativity.
TIL, I apparently own a car, and it’s spying on me!
Well, I mean, they know what we own because of the spying. But ymmv
Doubleposting my comment from the other community this was posted to:
How hard would it be for a skilled person to disconnect the antenna/com-module (or disrupt connection in general) in a way that still allows for updates of the software, if I chose to install them?
Depends entirely on the car. On some vehicles the modem is incorporated into an electronics module that other parts of the vehicle rely on. Sabataging it may cause other things not to work or cause other problems. On some vehicles it’s fairly simple to do. Additionally accessing it may be a problem. not everyone is going to remove their dash or center console and on top of that doing so could potentially void your warranty for certain costly repairs.
it’s better to just buy older vehicles that can’t phone home anymore.
You could also build a kit car I guess, if you’re so inclined (I know most people aren’t), or buy a fleet vehicle. On a lot of fleet vehicles the modems aren’t hooked up depending on the contract.
I do wonder if it’s possible to order a vehicle without the modem. But then you wouldn’t be able to just walk into a show room and drive away with a new car.
The antenna cannot be buried within a car to work. Just wrap the antenna with foil or copper mesh. It won’t affect anything because data gets blocked in tunnels and the car does not shut down.
No need to knee jerk and go full Mad Max. Put away the leather chaps.
It would not be rocket science to relay your car output data to a device that then transmits data from a perfect driver. Flipper for cars.
The antenna not working doesn’t stop the dealer from uploading that data from the car when you visit for service.
My goal is to keep repairing my old cars, and just keep retrofitting them until thats illegal.
I foresee big business with this. Its already popular with semi trucks. Buy a new or refurb chassis and put a crate engine in to bypass shit.
Just crazy we have allowed car mfgs to do this. I will never buy any new car, they are all shit. Time to start getting better at rust repair !
Most systems will allow for updates via USB, and this guy ripped out his Toyota’s modem and gps.
This is partly why I’m interested in the Slate truck. Your car can’t spy on you if it doesn’t have the tech needed for spying.
Sadly it won’t happen. It’ll be government mandated so every car needs it, like screens.
So if you want a new car in the US, get one from mexico or maybe Europe. Mexico was making the vw beetle up until like 2004?
Old cars are going to shoot up in value even more now.
Just wrap the connectivity antenna in foil.
Put the whole car in a Faraday bag.
Until somebody does a teardown of a regular off the lot model, there’s no way to be sure.
This is why I cherish my 2020 car, no GPS, no LTE modem in it
BRB gonna go buy a 78 K5 blazer. No computer, no problem
