- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux).
- Origin removes email aliases, Leo AI, VPN, Wallet, Speedreader, and more via a toggleable panel or standalone client.
- You can buy Origin on Brave Premium or enable the panel at brave://settings/system.
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Funny - are there any other known instances in the history of software where you have to pay extra to remove actual features?
Also, don’t use Brave.
I’ll keep using it. It’s the best browser out there, FF is terrible and is managed by a shitty, corrupt company which deserves to disappear.
This has to be a joke right…
Like I can’t imagine any way this could be serious, cause brave literally inserted referral codes to steal money from creators. They also inject ads. Like… you have to be making a joke. There’s no way you’re serious.
The only joke here is the crap browser that FF is. Bye.
Okey bye IE bot. Hope to see ya in a few year when Edge finally reach you… So the IE dumb defender didn’t disappear, they started using brave… This explain so much about how a company with this kind of action against the consumer can survive. They target the old IE fan boy with an humiliation kink.
He was so upset he threw a fit and downvoted anyone who didn’t parrot his ideals
Not sure if I should block these users to reduce the ragebait or leave them to enjoy the comedy.
For my defense he is asking for it…
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Check out Helium. It’s what Brave was supposed to be. (And it uses Chromium.)
I’m fine with Brave, thanks.
But we’ll keep recommending something else.
It’s not working very well, at least for FF, which keeps hemorrhaging users (deservedly).
I run Brave on all my systems.
It’s a good one, but still in alpha and only Windows for the moment. Keeping an eye on it as alternative somewhat later.
I’ve been using it on Linux for months and didn’t notice anything weird going on. It’s not my main browser though, so your mileage may vary.
Is Helium or something like it available on iOS?
No.
I use Firefox Focus ob iOS and AdGuard DNS.
Who is the target audience for this? Without those features isn’t Brave just like any other Chromium browser?
It being free on Linux is pretty interesting.
Lmao it’s like the play store tax
Is Brave not FOSS? How come nobody has already made a debloated fork of the browser?
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i actually work in software security.
grapheneos has talked about integrating shields into vanadium (and by extension, trivalent) which i would love. shields imo is a very top notch implementation of an ad blocker and is better than ublock origin in every way due to how it blocks in ram with rust rather than in userspace like ublock. brave does pretty well at integrating many things into the browser so that the user isnt tempted to install extensions, which reduces attack surface. i consider email aliases, automatic darkmode (can be enabled via chrome flags) on sites, and a built in adblocker (not an extension, it must also work on videos) to be critical for user experience, and ideally via no extensions. currently only brave offers each of these stock, which is very unfortunate. plus it has better sandboxing, there are many exploits to harvest fingerprints on many corporate sites that circumvent sandboxing in firefox and read other tab data. basically, the only options are brave with minimal changes, mullvad browser with no changes, or tor browser with no changes, and you should not open more than one tab on any firefox browser. the last two are not great for usability every day due to no automatic darkmode, among other features.
i think the best way for brave to improve would be maybe to include something like sponsorblock in the browser as well and then work hard to cut off providing extensions altogether, as extensions are a main source of fingerprints becoming unique and data leaks. and of course remove all the crypto garbage.
There was a fork, it was called braver. I think it got sued and then shut down? Not too sure.
Isn’t that just helium browser
In the sense that they are both Chromium? In that case it’s just Vivaldi as well.
a couple minutes to click through vivaldi’s settings will turn off all the annoying stuff (similar to firefox, but firefox is quicker to ‘set up’). i’ve never seen it re-enable things like microsoft loves to do.
vivaldi is what i use for a chromium-based browser when i need to check web client ‘compatibility’; and i like that you can customize the toolbar (like you can in firefox)… i move the back-forward stuff to the right side of the address box, and add the separate search box (so suggestions can be enabled in it but off for searches in address bar).
Afaik Helium is unbraved Brave
Not really, it has some patches from ungoogled-chromium, brave, and others. But it doesn’t use Brave’s ad blocker, bundles uBlock Origin instead.
What browser should I use then thats not brave or Firefox?
you should use firefox and turn off the ‘ai’ crap (one toggle) if you don’t want it. a few more clicks turns off the ‘sponsored’ stuff and ‘telemetry’. if that’s too much for you, then librewolf. zen, perhaps, if you want something a lil’ different.
Waterfox, librewolf
Konform, Zen, Floorp are solid ones to check out
+1 to Zen and Floorp. Haven’t come across Konform before, thanks!
Vivaldi
I use Vivaldi, european and against the AI (and also crypto) hype
Safari/Epiphany.
Why not Firefox?
I use Librewolf so I don’t have to worry about Mozilla adding things and enabling them by default
Most of those features are opt-in anyway, so there’s really little to “remove”. That’s just a way for them to fund the development without resorting to deals with Google and the likes or selling users’s data.
Why the fuck would they need to fund development when they’re funded by the antichrist himself?
That has been debunked.
But you’re free to keep believing in FUD.
By the way… I guess you’re fine with Mozilla being in bed with… Google itself?
I never thought I’d meet a homophobe defender brave enough to venture outside their own little pocket fascist instance of lemmy.
Here are some facts:
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That link does not ‘debunk’ the fact that Brave was funded, in part, by Peter Thiel. It just downplays it.
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Brave’s funding was a crypto scam, and selling the idea of ‘selling out to advertisers’ to investors.
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They are so incredibly ‘committed to privacy’ that they keep selling user data and illegally redirecting users.
No, to answer your whataboutism, I’m not fine with the Mozilla board having Google members among others on it. I really hate that they are spending most of their money on not web browser development, and have spent most of their money in the last two years that was ear marked for browser development on AI features the majority of users turn off. But that’s still better than supporting Brenden Eich.
On your point 3 there was a 1 time issue back in 2020 about redirect links from 1 specific site (binance.us). I know a lot of companies claim malicious things were a bug, but considering it only happened once, was restricted to one site, was fixed almost immediately after it was discovered, and had to do with auto fill settings in the address bar from people who had already used brave’s affiliate links; it really does seem more like a bug. Why do you insinuate that they “keep” doing something when there is only this one instance?
Also no where in that link does it mention “selling user data” so that part seems to have come straight from you ass.
I’d address the other points and why they are pretty much meaningless when you dig into the actual stories, but I dont have the time, and trying to explain the reality of brave to Lemmy users is like trying to explain to a dog why they can’t just eat all the food all the time.
But I did want to specifically call out point 3 because you literally just made shit up and a primal part of my brain can not stand dirty fucking liars who lie because they don’t have any actual arguments.
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You lose all credibility outside of your weird little circles when you use the word “FUD”.
I couldn’t care less if truth doesn’t fit your narrative.
I made no vale judgement on the information you provided, just informing you of the optics.
