I’m not one to get in a measuring contest, but I think the [masters] are bigger dicks than the patrons who have 0 obligation. $20 entree? That should include the labour of making that, and delivering it to front of house.
Playing the devils advocate here, but if everybody in the states excludes the tip when advertising prices, even showing a price with a suggested tip can make that place seem more expensive and thus less desirable. If a business is unprofitable or goes bankrupt, that will hurt the employees too.
I totally agree with your final point, but the masters in this case are also stuck in the unfair system. Sure they deserve some blame, but the true blame lies with the bigger fish: politicians, organisations and corporations big enough to lobby for laws that fuck over the small guy.
Also, patrons might not have a legal obligation, but if you’re served by someone who does not get paid a living wage, you imo have a moral obligation to supplement their wage. Again, i totally agree this is not a fair system.
But it’s not the voting citizens that caused the problem, nor the voting citizens that can fix it. That should be the case, sure. We can agree to disagree, but ever since I’ve been to places where people are less fortunate then me (weird that imo the US counts as a third world country in that matter, yes), i stopped caring who created the problem and who should fix it. As a person from a more fair system I feel a moral obligation to not burden the individuals I encounter with the shitty position their system put them in. You are entirely free to make your decision on what is wrong and right of course.
those European are dicks, but so are their bosses
I’m not one to get in a measuring contest, but I think the [masters] are bigger dicks than the patrons who have 0 obligation. $20 entree? That should include the labour of making that, and delivering it to front of house.
Playing the devils advocate here, but if everybody in the states excludes the tip when advertising prices, even showing a price with a suggested tip can make that place seem more expensive and thus less desirable. If a business is unprofitable or goes bankrupt, that will hurt the employees too.
I totally agree with your final point, but the masters in this case are also stuck in the unfair system. Sure they deserve some blame, but the true blame lies with the bigger fish: politicians, organisations and corporations big enough to lobby for laws that fuck over the small guy.
Also, patrons might not have a legal obligation, but if you’re served by someone who does not get paid a living wage, you imo have a moral obligation to supplement their wage. Again, i totally agree this is not a fair system.
I’ll agree with the moral obligation but I would only burden voting citizens with that. The system is fucked for sure.
But it’s not the voting citizens that caused the problem, nor the voting citizens that can fix it. That should be the case, sure. We can agree to disagree, but ever since I’ve been to places where people are less fortunate then me (weird that imo the US counts as a third world country in that matter, yes), i stopped caring who created the problem and who should fix it. As a person from a more fair system I feel a moral obligation to not burden the individuals I encounter with the shitty position their system put them in. You are entirely free to make your decision on what is wrong and right of course.