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    Fireman saves kitten and no money changed hands. Fuck that communist bastard fireman! /s

  • This is a regular bit on FOX News. The list all the platform points of a Democratic official and play it as if it’s offensive when they should be positive points and are, popular policies according to most polls.

    I’ve seen lists played this way on FOX for years now, including the original Green New Deal.

    I don’t understand how this works, and am disquieted that it does. FOX is super confident in the thrall it has over it’s viewership.

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      It works because the average Fox News viewer:

      1. Is old, and already has Medicare, and doesn’t want it changed.
      2. Is retired and would see no benefit from a 32 hour work week
      3. is old, and sees environmental regulations as costs to them now with benefits in a future they won’t see
      4. Is old and retired and would see no benefit from free college
      5. is old and probably owns a house substantially paid off, and would see no benefit from a government housing program
      6. is a selfish asshole who doesn’t want others to enjoy these benefits, not even their own children
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        That gives me a glimmer of hope, that the boomers dying off (and some of us Xers) will allow the Overton window to shift again away from tribalism and towards mutualist values.

        It is curious though, since the silent generation and greatest generation both had a sense of legacy, e.g. planting trees knowing you will not live to feel their shade. I wonder if it’s related to the rise of consumerism and the disposable product economy.

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      It’s negative programming. It’s a psychological technique used to prevent the subject from engaging with a subject earnestly when a source of free information is available by ‘poisoning the well’ ahead of time by associating the idea with an ‘opposed ideology’ thus discrediting the source of further information ahead of time.

      Works on enough people to matter.

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    Clown world is the only place this could not be a joke. Like what else could they have on there? Free oral sex on request? Support for kittens?

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        Well those things are obviously bad, if they weren’t, their “team” wouldn’t fight so hard against it!

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    When you’re so racist and classist, that you’ve become afraid of “all”.

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    Health care ? Stable economy ? You really want that ?

    You’ll end up just like Boomers with fancy “pensions” and “cabins” and happy grandkids DO YOU REALLY want tha… yeah that sounds pretty pretty pretty good comrade.

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    The older generation is so selfish they don’t want the younger generations to get something “easier” than they think they had it. “I walked uphill both ways in the snow” kind of thinking. Most privileged generation.

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      Last night at dinner boomer maga: “why aren’t the kids drinking anymore?” Me: well we got like 10 jobs and have no time so i imagine they have like 20 jobs even less… “we used to go to work hungover”… oooooookay

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        How about getting a single DUI will absolutely ruin your life? I’m so paranoid about drinking that I NEVER drink when I’m out for dinner. If a cop pulls me over, I want to be able to say “I haven’t had a single drop to drink.”

        Besides, what’s wrong with people drinking less? Not smoking and drinking are two of the best things you can do for your life. This guy wants young people to fuck up their lives, so that he feels better about fucking up his?

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          It’s funny that you think not having a drop to drink will prevent the cops from arresting you for DUI with a 0.0 breathalizer anyway and the DA from prosecuting you despite an additional 0.0 blood test.

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      Their finding out the hard way that nothing lasts on this Earth and that death always comes to reap its due.

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      Good luck being distracted by age. That’s almost as bad as red/blue state bullshit. Sure, the people in power in those states is making a difference, but my point is there’s a huge mix of people in every state. And in the same way, there’s plenty of old progressives and young fascists.

      Constantly putting this crap on older generations implies you’re one of the ones hoping the problem will die off.

      It won’t.

      And distracting you from realizing that is the big reason for the push for “boomers” to equal “evil”. There’s a lot of idiot evil boomers, but there’s plenty of young idiot evil fascists.

      The problem ain’t gonna die itself away. We must fight.

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        I’ve been hearing that the Republican Party will wither from attrition as they all die off for 50 fucking years. We should be free of them by now, but instead they’ve taken over everything.

        I always tell people to remember back to that first big protest in Chancellorville, when all those neo-Nazi fuckwits marched in with their tiki torches, chanting “Jews will not replace us”. ALL those weenies were under 40 years old. Rush Limbaugh and all the other psychopathic propagandists have been great at recruiting and indoctrinating new psychopaths into their ranks, and replacing all the old psychopaths that finally got dragged to Hell.

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          You don’t understand Christianity. Christianity is the religion of the police state. Revelation 22:15 encapsulates the notion of how the sinners are surrounded, with everyone who loves AND practices lying (not TO) being the undercover cops. Jesus’ crucifixion let us see who the idoltarers were, and cost one Roman soldier with a spear a promotion. I guarantee those tiki torch fuckers were 80% cops. The Proud Boys are feds. I know this because the joke is I had to be a crackhead because I wasn’t good enough to be a pothead, which is a festival cop.

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        Thinking in labels is inherently dualistic thinking. The brain processes entanglements, and it is möbiated entanglements, that which the Buddhists called “defiled” that manifest the illusion of the self. This is giving a string a half-twist to create dualistic dichotomy (inner/outer). A form of möbiation that would take a minute to explain, but can be summed up in the phrase orthogonal relativity, and this picture, is what allows the brain to process an eleven dimensional topological matrix. Yer a knot, Neo. Enlightenment is being the effect before the cause - developing your prefrontal cortex to predict and outclass the animal parts of the brain, and resolving all karmic debt to demöbiate all your mind back into a unified field of entanglements.

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        The problem ain’t gonna die itself away. We must fight.

        And teach. We’re fighting ignorance and intolerance. We all gotta learn

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        This is sorta the same defense as “#NotAll(X)”. Because, like, yeah, obviously there are plenty of older progressives. But… The issue at hand here is one of power. Older generations have more wealth on average and hold more conservative views on average. It’s sorta on them to use their positions to make lives easier on those younger and less fortunate than themselves, and unfortunately for the rest of us, they are less likely to do so. And I say this with a boomer grandma doing her fucking best protesting outside ICE facilities.

        To pretend there isn’t an age bias is silly. To pretend there is only an age bias is also silly. But it does exist, interrelated to wealth and power disparities that everyone is suffering from. So, you know, fuck boomers. If you don’t like hearing that, then really reflect on what that says about you.

        In closing, yeah, the problem won’t simply die away, but I ain’t gonna pretend it doesn’t help, even if it isn’t every boomer’s fault.

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          The point that you are glossing over and dismissing as a minor one is Central to my theme: the problem is not going to die itself away.

          Most of the people riding off boomers assume that all the youngsters are progressives. They are not.

          Nowhere did I say boomers are equally as progressive as any other group. There’s a reason I didn’t say that. There’s a reason I said the other things that I said.

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            I don’t think everyone is saying the youth are all progressives, either. I think the only people saying that are conservatives.

            The problem will get better with people dying of old age, though. You can’t really deny that.

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              Around 44% of Boomers consider themselves conservative.

              Around 33% of young adults do.

              Go ahead and wait around while the fascists only increase the propaganda if you think that’ll help, but in my humble opinion, that only falls into their trap. They get us to wait while they keep fighting tooth and nail.

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            True, but I think if we’re going off pure numbers, fuck men. Like, they are doing the least outta all these groups.

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    Anybody has the video? I wanna know if this is real and if it is I wanna see them try to spin that the bad way.

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    My favorite activity for a minute now is to ask people the definitions and differences between socialism and communism. It’s entertaining.

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      o0o in a similar vein, i like to ask them if they are pro fascism or anti… reminding them that they really only get to pick one… and watch them squirm as their programming conflicts

      which is hilarious as they generally also couldnt define fascism if their life depended on it

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      I once explained some socialism ideas on Reddit. One user called me a communist, another a Nazi. It was a very confusing pair of responses but said more than either would ever know.

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        Because outside of a class room the terms are meaningless.

        The PRC is still officially Communist, and has billionaires.

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          North Korea still claims to be a communist state too,

          It’s more interesting to look at things like the USSR before, during and after the New Economic Policy period. Or, to look at the USA at the time when policing was outsourced to the Pinkertons. Or, at the UK when firefighting was a for-profit enterprise.

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          Tbf, Maoism was certainly more aligned with communist principles, though with their entering into the global capitalist marketplace they’ve certainly morphed quite a bit. They still maintain a unilateral top down structure and control, while allowing their citizens to benefit from certain elements of capitalism.

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      But you’re wasting their time, and yours.

      Instead say, “I like this candidate. She wants to tax the rich.”

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        My parents are boomers and they want these things. And most people in their circles are the same. So I really get annoyed when I see this sentiment online, especially on Lemmy where you’d think people would know better. A lot of MAGA support is coming from younger people. Why do you think that Kirk dickhead was at college campuses, not retirement homes. These are people who are not anti vax because they grew up with polio. They support unions because they have seen them work.

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          As with any generation, many of the people who were teens in the 60s did not like the depression- and war-torn, conformist, society they grew up in, They had much different values and music and politics and approaches to life. Yes … today they’d be called democratic socialists, they showed up for Sanders’ tour. They don’t watch what Mideas Touch calls the ‘Regime Media’. The Repubs are running scared about the midterms, for a good reason.

          Thinking everyone in an earlier generation is to blame for anything today is wrong-headed and the result of just not knowing enough about history.

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          Eh, plenty of Boomers will say they want those things but then shoot down any attempts at them as “not the right way”. These are the kinds of people who showed up to the Democratic primaries in 2020 and voted for Joe Biden. If they really wanted these things they’d vote in the primaries for politicians who are fighting for them.

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            Eh, plenty of younger people will say they want those things but then decide not to vote for the Democrat candidate who made it as the nominee because they didn’t pass some purity test. And that hands power to the fascists.

            I voted for Biden. And Clinton. And Harris. In the general election, because not doing so was a vote for fascism. I also voted for different people in the primaries because that was my chance to vote for a progressive.

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                Imagine that before you stand two candidates. One of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but does occasionally manage to also support human rights. The other of them supports genocide and corporations as people, but also is working to break our democracy and replace it with fascism.

                Those are your two options.

                If you decide not to vote for the first one because they support genocide, then you are lending your support to fascism.

                I would hope you would have supported a better candidate earlier in the process, but the point is that when faced with the final voting options, many people withdraw from voting because they don’t like the candidate that is of the party that they would support if they did like them.

                And so the fascists win that voter’s voting power, essentially.

                Worth noting that I’m not talking about earlier in the process because the above scenario is an extremely simplified version of what our options have mostly been.

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                  Then the country deserves to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized. Sorry about your shitty situation. Death to America.

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              To be clear, you’re trying to deflect blame away from people who show up to the Democratic primaries to vote for strike blocking, genocide supporting geriatrics yes?

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    HOW DARE THEY GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LITERALLY EVERYTHING THEY EVER WANTED!!!

    AAAAAAAAAAA!!!

    😂😂😂😂😂😊😂😂😂😂😂