• Mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Might I remind you that what you call “socialism” is generally called “basic human rights” in the rest of the developed world?

      Europe is not socialist by any means, nor is Japan, nor is the UK, but they all have reasonably priced healthcare and education, varying degrees of help for the homeless, etc.
      Not having children starve in school because their family is poor is not socialism, it’s basic decency.
      Not being forever in debt because of a medical complication you likely had no control over is not socialism, it’s basic decency.

      Providing services that make everyone’s life better is not socialism, nor is properly regulating what corporations and billionaires can and cannot do, it’s a reasonable middle ground with seems to elude you and many of your compatriots.

      You Americans need to understand that, despite the decades of propaganda you’ve been fed, your country is woefully behind compared to the rest of the world. If you want it to get better, you need to set aside your prejudice towards “leftist” (and I mean it in the lightest sense of the word, even the right-most of right-wing parties abroad doesn’t wish to eliminate public healthcare) policies, or you’ll be stuck being the richest third world country for the rest of time.

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        I second that. It’s always a sensitive topic with Americans because a lot of them are really in a bubble.

        Only a handful of countries worldwide don’t have a universal heathcare system. Only one is in the “developed countries” list.

        Universal healthcare is not socialism, it’s a very pragmatic policy that saves a lot of money for everyone but private insurance companies.

        Public health in general is disastrous. Obesity and diabetes rates are alarmingly high. The food industry is literally killing Americans, much more than terrorists or wars, but they have free pass.

        Predatory loans on students are another third-world mafia idea of an education system.

        When corporate can pour money on campaigns, all we see is a legalized corruption system.

        I could go on. But at this stage, you probably understand why the US don’t “have people from Norway”: the only people living in a developed country who would benefit from going to the US are wealthy enough to not fear the healthcare and education systems.

        I personally know folks who went to the US with promises of better pay and very low taxes. They were debt free before going. Now they’re in debt for the rest of their life, are worried about their kids studies and their own retirement. The American dream quickly turns to a nightmare.