Obviously this is a broad and controversial topic (especially since I’m asking about both on and offline) but as individualism and isolationism seems to be increasing in the western world, I’m wondering what can be done and what others have done to counteract this trend.
Edit: Obviously, there’s broad things like participating in hobby groups or being nice to neighbours, but I’m especially interested in discussion of specifics, such as ways to set up these groups, organisational structures, or ways to expand connections from a hobby group beyond just the hobby.
I remember reading an article years ago, where a young couple had moved into a newly built community. As they settled in, they realized they had projects around the house that weren’t overly skilled but would benefit from additional hands. They got together with several of their neighbors who had similar issues.
Once a month, they descended on one house. The owner had a list of projects - empty the attic, clean out the shed, paint the living room, whatever they needed help with. Everyone would divvy up the work; the owner provided food and drink throughout the day, and at the end, everyone relaxed together. Then the next month, they’d descend on the next person’s house.
The group ended up really bonding together. As they grew older, they helped each other get through illnesses, celebrate graduations and weddings, cope with grief, and stay in their houses. I’m sure it helped that it was a new neighborhood with a bunch of people likely seeking connections, but I’d love to see that kind of bond elsewhere.
Friend of mine started a womens’ friend group in a small town. She posted the first meet up on Facebook, made it for a wine bar at a time not too many people would be there. She used an agenda, having us write and doodle answers to questions like “how did you make friends as a child?” “What has been difficult about making friends now?” “What kind of activities would you be interested in?”
Some of the hopes for the group included things like having a place to ask for help if you needed a ride or help moving a couch, or inviting someone to just hang out for moral support while you fold laundry.
The group set up a signal chat to make regular plans, ask for advice from people who had different experience levels, discuss current events, etc.
I would recommend doing this with some kind of narrow focus, like a particular gender or age group, or life stage commonality.
community won’t give you these things. there is no necessary connection between hanging out with people on the regular or doing stuff with people and that leading to deeper connections you may be seeking.
if you think you can just kind of force this stuff to happen, you’re going to have a bad time. and frankly I think that’s the biggest issue, is people kinda force it to happen rather than let it happen and get mad.
your deep relationships mostly form from unstructured time together, and spontaneous activity. that’s why a most people’s social life peaks in college, where you have large blocks of unstructured time. Also in spaces like college, the social distinctions you have with others blend away because you’re all operating in a relatively level of equality.
hanging out with people 1-2 hours a week and doing a hobby structured and non-spontaneous and hence mostly leads to shallow relationships based solely around the activity. and there are a lot of underlying social differences that don’t come up in such an activity that once you step outside the bounds of it, become readily apparent.
you don’t really get those in adulthood unless you’re on vacation or unemployed. or you are are regular at a bar every night…
anyway, my rant is basically community and belonging aren’t a ‘problem to solve’, and if you think they are… well you’re not going to have a good time. it’s really whether or you you want to make the choice to give up your individual freedoms for the sake of group social approval.
- Make plans with other people.
- Don’t bail. Rinse and repeat.
But for real, finding ways to volunteer for your personal interests - whether online or in person - is the best way. It will connect you with other similarly interested people, give you a bit of responsibility so they see you’re trustworthy and how you think, and once you are “work-friends” you can invite them to personal things also like going on a hike, watch/discuss a movie, go to an event, co-work, play a game, etc. The most important part is, of you say you’ll do something that they’re relying on you for, you gotta do it or communicate before hand why you can’t. Community is just a group of people with similar interests that trust each other and communicate.
Get to know all your neighbors
We host a free cookout at the end of our block every week. Nothing fancy, hotdogs and smores, chips, beers, water, soda… Every time someone walks by we ask them, hey, want a hotdog? All kinds of folks show up – white middle class, punks, fellow queerios, Black and Latinx neighbors, kids, teenagers, sr citizens…
Sometimes we block off a section of the roundabout and play four-square
Absolutely the best thing I’ve seen for building relationships – community --within the few blocks radius.
No permits, zero affiliation with “open streets” (cop funded) or any other municipal grant.
The highlight of my week
I’ve had success doing this with cookies. I live in a rural area and I make the best cookies, and I hand them out to the neighbors when I see them.
One neighbor mows my lawn sometimes. Another one had me use my drone to help find a cow. Another neighbor gardens with my other half.
How tf is this question controversial?
Weird to frame it that way.
Build community through mutual interests, hobbies and passions. Identify and define, communicate and collaborate.
Supporting shared ideas, stories, concepts and strategies.
Define the interest, see who’s onboard, communicate the intention and call to action.
Disseminate, discuss and determine how to do it better, what was missing, who else can be involved and do it again.
Make a point to engage the people you interact with. Be a good neighbor. See where and when you can help or support those around you.
What are u asking op?
How tf is this question controversial?
Weird to frame it that way.
More the specifics that can be controversial - for example, moderation policies, broad appeal versus exclusivity/specificity, which forms of outreach work or don’t, how power structures should be organized, ect. Obviously its not all heated debate, but there often are strongly held opinions for or against different methods.
What are u asking op?
I am intentionally leaving it broad, but generally looking for more specific answers. For example forming/participating in interest groups is a good start, but also: How do you structure them? How do you fund them? How do you expand it beyond the limited scope of the hobby? I’m hoping to get meaningful discussion on not just broad suggestions, but also specifics.
The last community I created spawned off Reddit before the final nail in my permaban coffin.
Local subreddit had left leaning counter culture folks wanting a safe space to learn and train in firearms. We’re spread out in smaller suburban communities, small city nearby…bigger cities 150-200 miles away.
I’m an organizer and planner and saw that they needed me to put it all together build our community. We opted to be non-affiliated directly with the SRA/Pink Pistols and have contacts, people in those orgs we’ve collaborated with.
I created signal group, we joined one of the local gun clubs. We talk, we plan, train and collaborate. I’ve organized multiple Stop the Bleed trauma response trainings and opened the community other folks of mutual interest.
The foundation of community building is from training martial arts most of my life.
Start somewhere, look at you list of goals, pick one and start doing it. Connect with those around you. Be open, receptive and compassionate…you will meet your people as you walk through life.
Volunteering is a good place to start. Most places have community centers and food pantries and such that are always looking for volunteers. This puts you directly in line for helping your community members.
Introduce yourself to your neighbors. Do the neighborly things like bring their bins in for them, check in with them when there’s a storm, etc. Learn their names. Strike up conversation when you see them outside.
Join local sports or running club or something similar. Getting yourself physically in places with others and being open to befriending people is the quickest way to immerse yourself in community building.
Getting to know your neighbors and joining or creating mutual aid groups is a good way to build community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
Check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
There’s also some projects you can do that help build community (and can be fun in themselves!). My instance put together a list of ideas, just scroll down to the “Fun Projects to Build Community” section
The core of a community is consistent interaction with community members. The easiest way to develop this is to have some kind of regular meeting that people have a reason to attend. A bar can be a community, a church can be a community, a library can be a community, a park can be a community, an online game can be a community, a web forum can be a community. You can also have a community without a specific regular meeting place, as long as the members are willing to make the effort to meet in different places (this is more difficult, and works best for small groups of friends). What matters is that people keep showing up and spending time together.
It becomes a real community when the members begin to care about each other, so much so that they will go out of their way to ensure the well-being of other members. This takes time to develop, and benefits greatly from community leaders who set an example of care, which can be as simple as asking how someone is doing and genuinely listening to the answer. It’s easier to do in person because you can often look at someone and know that something is wrong, and they can’t just run away embarrassed without making a scene. It’s harder to do through the Internet, people will simply disappear. Bluntly, the less people have invested personally the more likely they are to just leave.
Churches are actually an instructive example - religious worship has been the center of communities for much of humanity’s past. Small churches tend to build communities very easily because they have:
- Weekly meetings in a dedicated space - no one has to guess when or where to be, or if anyone else is going to show up
- Mutual support - the religious aspects of the group encourage members to care for each other
- Guilt tripping - there’s a lot of peer pressure to show up every week, and social consequences for not doing so
If you want to build a community, try to be that example of a community leader who checks in with others and cares about their well-being. It’s tricky though, trying too hard too fast with this is not socially acceptable and will push people away. Starting out the most important thing is communication and coordination (e.g. making sure people have transportation to and from the meeting). Start small, start simple, and this might seem counterintuitive, try to be the invisible glue that holds it all together. For the community to form, the members must develop relationships with each other that are not dependent on the leader, which means you can’t insert yourself into every relationship within the community - you can’t be everyone’s best friend, you might not even know everyone directly, and that’s okay. You need to facilitate the growth of relationships (by introducing people to each other) but not be the center of all of them (single point of failure). If you’re successful, the community will grow beyond yourself and take on its own form, which may be different from what you visualized at the start.
Also keep in mind that there’s a degree of getting lucky required to make this happen. You can set a table and invite people to sit down at it, but you can’t force them. People have to choose to join you, and choose to come back, and that means you have to find people who are in the right place in their lives, the right mindset, and have the time to be involved. Getting lucky typically involves casting a wide net, repeatedly over time, being patient, and accepting failure. Starting from scratch is hard.
Guilt tripping - there’s a lot of peer pressure to show up every week, and social consequences for not doing so
and further there will be other consequences for social non-conformity with say beliefs, activities, etc.
I was a part of a community that seemed really cool for years, but it decided it was going to start imposing these rules on people about how they had to dress/talk/look/think because newer people decided they had a ‘right to feel safe’ and they wanted to ‘circle the wagons’ so to speak, so I left. Because fuck that shit.
and further there will be other consequences for social non-conformity with say beliefs, activities, etc.
Yes, although I think conformity has more to with maintaining an existing community and/or influencing its behavior than it does growing a new community. It is certainly almost a required feature of religious groups.
Problems come when a community starts to be exclusionary/elitist, and starts drawing lines between “us” and “them”. I’m not really sure how you avoid that stage, it seems to happen with most groups once they grow to a certain size.
yeah, that was the issue with mine, it grew and it started to suck because insecure people joined and insecure people can’t help but impose their insecurity on other folks by drawing arbitrary boundaries… also we went from no money to having some money and that completely changed people’s behaviors…
personally I just don’t get it, but I’m not into identity politics and all that ‘my fragile self-image must be protected from the bad people’ nonsense.
One thing I want to do is set up a disaster response station. My area is situated near a fault line and some neighbourhoods in my city have a sea-can full of supplies (water, food, solar panels, lights, first-aid, etc.) and they recently hosted a workshop to teach people what to do in the event of a major earthquake/natural disaster, what supplies were there, and how to use the tech stored in the can.
There were a lot of people there and many of them stuck around after wards to talk with each other. Likely they were neighbours, but that’s part of community building I think.
*https://dunbaremergency.ca/services/map-your-neighbourhood/ <- Info if you want to create a similar meeting point for your community
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I don’t have an answer, but want you to know I’ve been wondering about the same thing.
I think for me it’s going to be about music–finding other musicians to hang with and make music with.
But I absolutely agree, society is collapsing to a collection of disconnected individuals (easier to control and manipulate).
If you want the science on it, the ur-text is Bowling Alone.
if you want to go back to 1950-1970 bowling alley communities you have to have a lot of social conformity.
disconnected individuals have way more freedom in how they live their lives that those who are bound but the social rules of a community. the stronger/tighter the community, the more strict the rules.
you can’t have it both ways. belonging comes with having to sacrifice your sense of individuality.
That’s certainly a dynamic at play; I often think about how Japanese society has a lot of things I like, but the costs are hidden from view.
But I think Western society has kind of gone off a cliff as far as the individual-community goes; there is very little social glue anymore, and the problem is if you want community, you need to find others who also want community, and people are busy trying to fuck or work or raise children and don’t have space for anything else.
Religion, which used to bring disparate groups together, is increasingly politicized and polarized–which speaks to what you’re talking about, but it didn’t always used to be that way.
Just saying, I think there’s something deeply wrong, and it’s new, and it’s getting worse and not better.
I don’t really think it’s wrong or right, to me it’s a ‘choices and consequences’ dynamic. I don’t like the moralizing that goes on about it, because I don’t think folks should be shamed for having or not having community or wanting or not wanting it.
But that’s not a popular way of thinking or looking at the issue. You bright that up and people get really angry with you, because human beings seem to think choices should be consequence-free.
And frankly, as a person who isn’t polarized… holy shit it’s like very hard to socialize at all if you aren’t also polarized. So many people I meet now, basically want to know how if you are ‘on their side’ and if you aren’t, they hate you. It’s insane… our social lives were not like this a decade ago. I used to have so many friends of different beliefs and religions and politics… and now that’s basically not possible because people have been brain washed into thinking anyone who isn’t exactly like them is EVIL and OUT TO GET THEM.
Personally I just kinda socialize less and less because it’s just not worth being around so many folks who are just perpetual miserable and angry and who only seem to be able form communities based on grievances about other people. God, I was part of a community garden two years ago, and I quit after a few months because so much of the community was based on being angry and bitter about ‘bad people ruining our garden and the evil city government trying got destroy us’. I was hoping to like just chill and learn about growing plants better.





