• bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    As a senior who has asthma and takes handful of prescription drugs, i’d just like to say how stupid you are for using this shit.

    Cannabis is way more likely to ruin your lungs than tobacco.

    “In conclusion, unequivocal evidence established that cannabis smoking is harmful to the respiratory system. Cannabis smoking has a wide range of negative effects on respiratory symptoms in both healthy subjects and patients with chronic lung disease. Given that the most common and cheapest way of assumption of cannabis is by smoking, healthcare providers should be prepared to provide counselling on cannabis smoking cessation and inform the public and decision-makers.”

    https://www.resmedjournal.com/article/S0954-6111(23)00382-7/fulltext

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      You know there’s ton of ways that don’t involve smoking? Putting anything in your lungs that isn’t meant to be there will have negative side effects.

      I have exercised induced asthma and dry herb vapes have been a life saver for me but I still recognize that I’m putting something in my lungs that doesn’t belong.

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        yeah the article he gives also is mainly about cannabis being hoter and held in. Sounds like its more about method than materials:

        “Compared to tobacco smoking, cannabis is smoked with larger and more prolonged inhalations, causing barotraumas, at times. Since joints, spliffs, and blunts are usually smoked without a filter, the concentration of the particulates in the airways are 4 times higher than when tobacco alone is smoked. Additionally, cannabis smoke generates higher temperatures that modify the biochemical processes and production of many chemicals within the body”

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          Does it talk about volume, though? I don’t take a smoke break every few hours to smoke a full joint. My coworkers will have a cigarette every few hours, though.

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            not that I saw. seemed to be comparing effects of one inhalation. what got me is they are comparing a joint and other non filtered things to a filtered cigarette. Don’t get me wrong any type of inhaling things into the lungs is bad but im skeptical about tobacco being worse than cannabis.

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              I agree. Even if we accept the smoking constraint, there’s paper filters, cotton filters, water filters…

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                yeah and besides limiting particulates they will also lower the heat the paper talks about. That leaves length of having it in the lungs but as you point out smokers smoke all the time. When a smoker takes the time to really enjoy a cig the way someone would with cannabis they hold it in longer too. Similarly folks that smoke bud contantly don’t hold it in all the time like that. They start smoking more like smokers. I not only doubt tobacco is better I feel like your more likely not to get additives with cannabis that might make it ever so slightly better. Again though inhaling things into the lungs is just not a good idea.

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      Cannabis is way more likely to ruin your lungs than tobacco.

      Dumbest shit I’ll read all day. That lead in your gas as a kid really did a number on you.

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        Like, per hit maybe. But do people really smoke 20 grams of weed a day, all day every day?

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        dont they fucking put gasoline, other known carcinogens and antjfreeze in most modern tobacco smoking products?

        Im a teetotaler but I would definitely tell somekne to pick cannabis over tobacco any day of the week. fuuug that shit about tobacco ‘somehow’ being less severe that cannabis.

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      Smoking. When the study relies only on smoking cannabis instead of vaping it or ingesting it, you know it’s just a weak hit piece.

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      Are you aware of herbal vaporizers? They even make oils you can literally rub into your skin for various treatments and effects… And there’s a wide variety of edible. Hell you can just sprinkle some on buttered toast and the heat and the fact active ingredients are fat solluable will convey the required effects.

      But at least I won’t call you stupid for not knowing all this.

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      Edibles and tinctures are a thing. I have very severe asthma and will either get a really nasty flare up or go into a full attack with just one whiff, but I’m able to use both without issue.