The unidentified demonstrator allegedly threw rocks at law enforcement and damaged government vehicles, the FBI said.
As tense anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles enter their fourth day, federal officers have ramped up law enforcement’s response – and have added one protester to the FBI’s ‘Most Wanted list.’
The unidentified demonstrator has been accused of assaulting a federal officer and damaging government property during Saturday’s protest in Paramount, a city 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
The suspect allegedly threw rocks at law enforcement on Alondra Boulevard around 3:30 p.m. Saturday, “injuring a federal officer and damaging government vehicles,” according to the FBI’s Los Angeles field office. It was not immediately clear whether the officer was injured or the extent of the damage.
Dude, I know this guy!!!
He was literally with me, thousands of miles away from this scene. We made ham sandwiches and drank iced tea.
Me, him, and Luigi Mangione have been on the International Space Station since November 2024!
Violent protester. 75% chance it’s an undercover agent of the state.
Literal conspiracy seems more likely to you than someone responding to violence with violence?
Given that most of the people arrested for violence during the George Floyd protests turned out to be right winger accelerationists … It’s not exactly a stretch
My dude, they were arresting random people and charging everyone with assault, obstruction, etc. Of the over 14000 people arrested at the end of June 2020 you really believe the majority were right wing accelerationists?
Jacob Fagundo, Timothy O’Donnell, James Massey and Lamar Taylor were all right wing accelerationists?
The random people they picked up had charges dropped after the arrest. I’m talking about the actual convictions.
My dude
Also, learn what the word most means. Finding a could other examples doesn’t make me wrong.
Finding a could other examples doesn’t make me wrong.
You’re right, you are the one making bold claims and so the burden of proof is on you. You got any?
Hope that rock you’ve been living under is comfy. My claims are not bold. They’re quite well documented.
AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
This one burnt down a police precinct during a BLM protest, trying to pin it on them
Boogaloo boys spotted at dozens of BLM protests as aggitators
Did you read your sources? They don’t say what you think they do.
- From the AP article you linked:
Of more than 300 arrested, there are about 286 defendants ___ Some of those facing charges undoubtedly share far-left and anti-government views. Far-right protesters also have been arrested and charged. ___ But many have had no previous run-ins with the law and no apparent ties to antifa, the umbrella term for leftist militant groups that Trump has said he wants to declare a terrorist organization.
In the classic misguided “journalistic neutrality” it does put additional emphasis on the 6 instances of “far-right extremism” a incidence rate of 2.1%. Do you believe that 2.1% is a majority?
- From the guardian article:
Hunter would later post multiple messages on Facebook bragging of his actions in Minneapolis on the night of 28 May and morning of 29 May, writing, “I set fire to that precinct with the Black community,” and, “My mom would call the FBI if she knew.”
“I’ve burned police stations with Black Panthers in Minneapolis,” he claimed in one message, and in another, “The BLM protesters in Minneapolis loved me.”
He wasn’t a lone actor trying to pin it on them, he was participating in an action with them.
- From the KansasCity article:
While Kansas City police haven’t made any arrests in the May 30 arson incident and say they haven’t seen direct evidence of extremists trying to disrupt the local protests,
Tere are so many agendas at play that it’s hard to tell who’s on what side. In some cases, they say they’re seeing a bizarre alignment between those on the far right, such as militias and the Boogalooers, and Black Lives Matter advocates protesting the death of George Floyd, with anger at police and the government being the common thread.
Which if you stopped to read for a second you would understand why the boogaloo boys specifically had real skin in the game with the protests against police brutality and why they wear Hawaiian shirts bearing the names of people killed in confrontations with police.
READ BEYOND THE GODDAMN HEADLINES
People like to believe in peaceful protests even if it does jack shit
It prob doesn’t even jack any shits.They might jack some shit actually - people reading about it on the toilet getting exposed to the truth & joining in on the movement(s).
Oh guaranteed some significant shits will get jacked. Absolutely.
It has been documented to happen, so it’s not incredibly outlandish. The regularity with which modern protest movements on the US left attempt to surpress violence to avoid giving an excuse to law enforcement makes it notable when it occurs. Again, far from unheard of, just not part of every instance.
So while it’s probably not the case that it’s overwhelmingly likely to be an agent provocateur, it would be unsurprising if it were that, someone there to push for escalation with no police affiliation, or just petty hooliganism. Last of which is significant only that it distinguishes someone who decided to do violence for a principled reason from someone who just wanted to throw rocks at cops.
Yes, ops and peace police exist. Why does that mean that it’s impossible for an individual to “do violence for a principled reason”? Is Luigi also an op?
I didn’t say that in the slightest, and in fact said the opposite.
It’s not a conspiracy theory to think that someone causing trouble came to the protest solely to cause trouble, for whom or why not withstanding.
The first two examples I gave, police and right wing accelerationists, have a political motivation. The third, holligans, are doing what they’re doing for it’s own sake.It’s obviously possible for someone aligned with the peaceful protestors to decide to throw rocks at cops. Neither I nor anyone else said otherwise.
There’s no need to put words in someone’s mouth or misrepresent what they’re saying.
The point of a protest is to cause trouble anything else is a parade.
It’s obviously possible for someone aligned with the peaceful protestors to decide to throw rocks at cops
The thing we are arguing about isn’t “possibility” it’s “probability”. To be fair, you have not directly stated you beliefs but the parent comment had stated their priors and they are completely divorced from reality.
Wait, you’re arguing with me because of what someone else said?
I said agitators aren’t a conspiracy theory. You asked why I thought the violence from the protestors was “impossible”. I said I didn’t think that, and it’s obviously possible and now you’re upset that I used the word “possible”?
The point of a protest is to cause trouble
🙄oh, go fuck yourself. If you’re getting to that level of nitpicking you aren’t actually doing anything but looking for argument, unless you’re actually so brain damaged that you think that all nonviolent protest is just “parades”. Just in case: in this context, trouble is a word used and understood by native English speakers to mean “undirected violence and destruction perpetrated for it’s own sake”.
I said I didn’t think that, and it’s obviously possible and now you’re upset that I used the word “possible”
Not upset, and I do think I misread your list of reasons for why someone would be a ‘violent protester’ as an exhaustive list when you did not mean it as such. My point about priors still stands but you are correct that it is mostly directed at badbytes. What were you trying to communicate with your first comment if not re-enforcing badbytes message?
in this context, trouble is a word used and understood by native English speakers to mean “undirected violence and destruction perpetrated for it’s own sake”
I appreciate this, however this definition runs opposite to your usage above about how police/accelerationists “came to the protest to cause trouble”. Your usage there was to communicate “directed violence perpetrated for political sake”.
The word “violence” is a bit murky here and I’m not sure I agree on it’s inclusion in the definition of “trouble” however with how obstruction and vandalism are considered “violent” by police I stand by the statement that:
The point of a protest is to cause “directed violence perpetrated for political sake”.
The FBI is asking the public for help identifying a man at the Los Angeles protests against ICE whom the agency has put on its ‘Most Wanted list. ‘ (FBI)
How about you go fuck yourself instead.
Throwing rocks, starting fires, and initiating violence? I’d say there’s a much better than 50% chance that this is someone who came to instigate violence rather that support the protest. If he’s ever arrested, I’d bet money that he turns out to have a pardon from Trump in his history or a ProudBoy tat or both.
Stop discrediting ways of protesting you dont like by making sruff up. The outside agitator trope is a counterinsurgency tactic to sow distrust in resistance movements.
This already happened with the George Floyd protests and in the end no proof was ever shown for this being a relevant factor in any meaningful way.
Stop discrediting ways of protesting you dont like by making sruff up. The outside agitator trope is a counterinsurgency tactic to sow distrust in resistance movements.
This already happened with the George Floyd protests and in the end no proof was ever shown for this being a relevant factor in any meaningful way.
Yes, it can be used to sow distrust, and it’s also a method that has been regularly used to incite violence so the authorities can respond with escalated violence. As for proof, you mean proof like the white supremacist that police identified as having been started fires and incited violence at otherwise peaceful George Floyd protests? Or this one? Or these guys?
The use of agents provocateur to turn peaceful protests violent is so common that it’s practically a tradition at this point.
Step 1. Peaceful protest
Step 2. Police start gunning down protestors
Step 3. “Guys dont escalate, the police might start shooting people”
Step 4. Fascism
I think you know what step you are at
You are wrong, people are pissed and are willing to show it. Have you never felt serious about something in your life? He didn’t initiate the violence, the raids in his community from masked fascist goon squads started the violence. He is defending the people.
