… And at worst, actively making your bedroom less functional and more cumbersome to use. The arguments I hear in favor of it are completely asinine and I will address them one by one.

  1. It makes it more comfortable to sleep in.

I have absolutely no idea where that comes from. Do you all sleep like Dracula? My bedding is usually tussled about within minutes of me laying in bed. Blankets balled up for knee support, one leg sticking out for temperature venting. I couldn’t imagine sliding under the covers and laying perfectly supine like Vladimir Lenin.

  1. It doesn’t take much time, so you might as well do it.

I find any task not worth my time to be a waste, so unless it has a purpose, it is actively infuriating to do.

  1. It looks nice. And an unmade bed looks lazy

Given that this is an entirely subjective reason, I can’t exactly “disagree” with it. But if there was someone I trust enough to be in my bedroom, I’m not going to waste my time convincing you that I do not, in fact, sleep in my bed.

Not to mention that if you want to nap or even sit on the end of the bed, you have to make it again. It is an incredibly unstable artwork, making me avoid using my bed unless I really need to.

If you make your bed, I have no judgment for you. Just like people who fold designs into the ends of their toilet paper. I couldn’t imagine caring about something like that, but it literally doesn’t affect me at all, so go nuts.

But I think we should be honest and call it what it is: some kind of shameful cleaning ritual that is probably some vestigial military chore, and I want nothing to do with it.

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        It is kinda stupid. The less i do stuff for myself, the more i get depressed.

        So i sometimes groom myself back into action, before getting too depressed to give a fuck

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    If you dial the resolution back beyond the bed, you have the whole human experience.

    Finding meaning within a finite existence framed against the infinite is not easy but, if you pick up your fucking room a little, maybe it can be done with a bit more class and comfort?

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      Lmao, matey. If you’re defining class and comfort by the making of a bed, you might need to dial the resolution back even further.

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      This is something that’s recently been changing my tune towards making my bed. And it’s not just hair, but dirt and schmutz they drag in from outside.

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      THANK you. My cat was adorable, but inhaling her fur while trying to get to sleep was difficult…

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        …I don’t understand. How do you not inhale her fur when she places her butthole right on your lips as you fall asleep?

        …what? Is my cat the ONLY one who does this???

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          I honestly feel like this is some sort of genetic thing. Even kittens, who have never had a chance to be taught this, somehow know exactly when the most inopportune time is and seem to focus on getting it just right.

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          Every pet thread there is at least one comment that reminds me how happy I am to not be a pet owner

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    Fatal counter point to all your arguments:

    It feels better when you do.

    Literally none of your logical arguments matter one iota because the human brain does not care how much you logic an argument. It feels nicer and more comforting climbing into a made bed then an unmade one.

    Also, lying on wrinkly sheets is inherently uncomfortable.

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      Counter-counterpoint: It “feeling better” is a subjective opinion. To me, it just sucks, and then it’s done, and then it sucks to get back into the bed when you’re ready to sleep.

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      Your “fatal counter point” is that you like it, and surely every single human brain feels the exact same way?

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      Also, lying on wrinkly sheets is inherently uncomfortable.

      And can cause bedsores.

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          Not really, the discomfort felt on wrinkly sheets directly precede them. Even healthy skin can break overnight, during humidity, pressure, friction, etc.

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            You shift your body subconsciously all of the time, especially while sitting/lying down; this naturally prevents bed sores

            If you’re at risk of developing bed sores from wrinkly sheets, then you probably won’t have the strength to make your bed every day. Bed sores are more frequent with neuropathy, weakness, altered mental status etc; but for the average healthy folk… no, wrinkly sheets won’t (significantly) increase your risk for bed sores

            Underlying conditions (acute or chronic) are the reasons for bed sores. You can have a perfectly smooth bed, but if you’re not making subtle weight shifts, you’ll get a bed sore

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            No, healthy skin cannot do that from a wrinkle. I have never made my bed since early childhood, and i have never woken up with a new break in my skin

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                No, each individual night of my life asleep is each a separate data point that refutes your claim. If this happens to a person then they don’t have healthy skin.

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    It took you longer to write this post then it does for me to fix my bed in the morning.

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    I had no idea people past my grandmother’s generation still felt compelled to make their bed… I thought we had collectively grown past the compulsion to do pointless tasks like this, along with other wastes of time like manually wiping the dishes or ironing everything including the dish cloth. Maybe that’s just me, though.

    (I’m not talking about doing it if you want to because you like it, only about the expectation that you should be doing it no matter what.)

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    Generally speaking, I agree with you, for many people… yeah there isn’t really any real compelling reason to habitually do this.

    However, there are fairly common circumstances where this does actually make sense:

    Maybe you just have a tad of OCD, and well… this’ll make you feel a bit more steady and comfortable, and it doesn’t really hurt anyone, assuming you’re not full blown OCD doing it over and over and over because its never perfect.

    Maybe you are mildy to moderately depressed… and… just being able to have any kind of regular structure, regular task that you can accomplish… maybe that means you’re not a completely useless piece of shit, and if you can keep up this good habit, and give yourself a pat on the back each time… maybe that means you can start to step up toward more, or bigger tasks.

    Maybe you’re a bit ADHD, and its… anchoring, helpful, to have that same just bit of predictable structure or routine, to help you get your day started.

    Maybe you have a cPTSD / Trauma response to a messy bed from associating it with very shitty situations in your past, and… having a made bed just removes a trigger for you.

    Or maybe you have pets, or toddlers, and don’t want to ‘lose’ them, lol, or have their uh, debris of whatever sort, just get everywhere in the bed.

    Maybe you live in a studio and eat food on your bed, clip your nails on it, and you adopt a regular ‘crumb removal from your bed’ routine as basically just a hygeine pattern, like brushing your teeth or hair or what not.

    Maybe your heat went out or its just fucking freezing, and having a properly made bed makes it just a bit warmer to get into for sleep.

    Maybe you have very fancy, high maintenance bedding, that will wrinkle and deform if not regularly … re normalized?

    (Yeah I dunno, this is apparently a thing, I am apparently either too simple or broke a man to have ever entertained the idea of a high maintenance bed, but apparently people do?)

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    Don’t make your bed then? I hope you’re being facetious, cuz all I’m getting from this is two things:

    You are obsessively preoccupied with other people

    You are irrationally critical of people’s behavior that has literally nothing to do with you.

    Truthfully; no one gives a fuck about you or your bed. Go outside

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      I agree people are not allowed to talk about things other people say are important, and if they do they are obsessed or irrational.

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      Probably just hating on Jordan Peterson and venting. I get it - I don’t like making the bed, but it’s not like there just aren’t benefits of doing so lol

      1. Having a tidy living space helps to provide some, and myself, with mental clarity. Honestly not sure how much of this is backed by science, and I’m lazy and don’t want to look it up, but it seems to be true from personal experience.

      2. If you have a thin sheet and a duvet, that stupid thin sheet can get all fucked up over time and you have to take the whole duvet off to fix the thin sheet and then making the bed becomes a much more annoying process. Doing at least a quick tidy up each night helps prevent having to do all of that.

      Like you said, they should just leave others to living life the way they want to if it helps them and isn’t hurting anyone else. That’s like if someone said they hate it if someone eats broccoli from the stem first instead of the top. Like, who cares they’re eating healthy, leave them alone lol

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    Back in the days, mattresses were made of straw or other natural materials. Blankets and pillows were stuffed with feathers until recently. And people were not able to heat their bedrooms sufficiently during winter. Back in those days, you had to make your bed in order to air it and dry it from sweat. Otherwise it would start to get moldy really quickly.

    Today, synthetic materials and central heating / air conditioning have eliminated the need for a strict humidity management in the bedroom. But it’s still stuck in people’s heads that making your bed is absolutely vital. I guess it’ll take another one or two generations for it to become irrelevant.

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    I have cats, if I don’t pull up the covers then I get to sleep with tiny grains of cat litter.

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      One of many great reasons to not have cats. Yes I know I will be downvoted to hell by fools who love little brainless predators.

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        I love my cats, but this is one of many reasons I don’t allow them in my bedroom.

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      Highly recommend switching to pine litter and a sifting litter box for this reason. You can get a 40lb bag of pine litter at Tractor Supply and other similar stores for less than $10.

      This video is a great breakdown

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      Been using tofu litter, way less tracking to places that are far from the litterbox and the tracking that does happen are cute little sprinkles that are easily picked up.

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    Some people function better when things are organized and orderly, some function better when things are disorganized and in disarray, some function the same either way.

    It is what it is. An orderly, organized bedroom feels great to sleep in to me, and might not matter at all to someone else.

    Whatever the case, anyone judging me because my bed is either made or not made can fuck right off.

    Edit: upvoted for unpopularity, as one does.

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    But if there was someone I trust enough to be in my bedroom, I’m not going to waste my time convincing you that I do not, in fact, sleep in my bed.

    If this is really how you feel, then I suppose I can’t dispute you. But this is like saying, “why would I comb my hair? Anyone I want to talk to is okay talking to me as I am.”

    Sure… But most people care about things like this. Maybe not explicitly - most people don’t explicitly think to themselves “ugh, an unmade bed. What a loser.” But on a subconscious emotional level, this is essentially what is happening. As a society, we’ve decided a made bed looks better than an unmade bed. That you have failed to make your bed prior to someone entering your bedroom indicates a lack of willingness or ability to confirm to social norms. This, then, typically corresponds to individuals with low social status, and lowers others’ opinions of you. Again, this happens on an entirely emotional, subconscious level for almost everyone most of the time. But the fact is, it happens.

    Hence, when I’m going to have guests in my bedroom, I make my bed. I don’t make my bed every day - I just don’t care that much. But I will 100% make my bed if I’m expecting someone else to see it, just like I would sweep the floors and comb my hair.

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      I kinda agree but for me and I think almost all of my friends it’s the opposite. It feels like they’re making the house “fake clean” like we’re not just hanging out and this is some big event for me to be over. It’s like how it would be weird to make your bed before your brother walks into the room, you’re not trying to impress anyone that’s just your room.

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    My room is really small, and I don’t have space for a couch for example, so if I would want to lay down and I’m in outdoor clothes, I would rather kill myself than to lay down in unmade bed while wearing jeans that saw every sort of dirt and dust

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      In that case, are you fully doing your bed every time, or just putting the duvet or whatever flat on the mattress so that it’s protecting it ?