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    15 days ago

    People being publicly religious will always cringe me, just like people believing in astrology and posting about it

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    Index funds. Avoid individual stocks. Don’t try to time the market, in or out. DCA. Don’t touch the money. Don’t touch the money. Don’t touch the money.

    Pretty much all you need to know right there - assuming the market continues in some fashion we’re accustomed to.

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      I’ve kind of thrown in a bit of favoritism towards Euro companies and responsible development.

      I don’t think I’m going to make bank on that. I just…don’t want to be financially invested in my own country right now.

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        There’s no reason you can’t do both. This country had proven time and a gain it will put rich people first, the rich get rich because investments and holdings in stocks, so taking advantage of the shitty situation is fair game.

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      You’ll think this dude is crazy when you are down $200 after your first year. But check again in 10 years when it has doubled in value. Just pretend the money doesn’t exist.

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        And the most important advice is to leave the money the fuck alone.

        I got lucky in that I started having enough money to invest after the 2008 crash. Those years had crazy good gains. The real test comes when the market crashes 30% in a few days. Can you stick to the plan? That happened in 2020 when lockdowns started, and if you stuck to the plan, you still did very, very well that year.

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      Avoid individual stocks.

      If you’re a new retail investor, sure. Putting all your chips on the S&P is probably the safest bet. But these indexes are, themselves, often overweighted by the MAG7 anyway. So you’re still heavily exposed to certain sectors and even individual firms. Tesla, for instance, is explicitly 3% of the NASDAQ composite. And because of the way it is interconnected with NVIDIA and Toyota and a few other large cap companies, a sudden downturn in Tesla value can drag down the rest of the index quickly.

      Don’t try to time the market, in or out. DCA. Don’t touch the money.

      That’s fine from a very rudimentary savings strategy. But as you learn more about individual equities, you’ll see opportunities. Palantir is a great example. It was trading at $10/share a year ago, despite Thiel having a direct line to national security spending budgets and a very friendly relationship with both Trump and Harris. Severely undervalued in the security sector in a way that a simple S&P or NASDAQ investment can’t take advantage of. Meanwhile, domestic natural gas is severely hindered by the US trade relations with China - which is the fastest growing market for petrochemicals. Simply having a chunk of the DOW won’t yield growth consistent with specific areas of the international market.

      Watch P/E ratios. Watch EBITDA. Watch what the economy is doing, generally speaking. Fuck day-trading and options plays. But you can absolutely find opportunities in the market long term with a conservative buy-and-hold strategy, if you can pick out equities that are undervalued and positioned for future growth.

      Solar is a great growth sector atm, as energy prices rise and O&G supply chains become overexposed to international conflicts. Bank stocks are enjoying a new wave of deregulation that promise high growth potential. Meanwhile, certain sectors in the MIC are stumbling - Boeing and Raytheon, for instance - because they can’t actually produce units to meet global demand for killing machines. There’s an arbitrage opportunity in smaller competitive startup firms - particularly in drone and electronic warfare.

      If you’re serious about investing, it’s worth asking the question “Is Intel in a position to compete with TMSC?” rather than just dumping all your money into an index.

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        I didn’t write this comment for investing at your level. This is investing for people who want to have a retirement and aren’t interested in stock investing as a job, because to correctly monitor markets and companies and successfully pick winners requires education and a time investment. I’ve done my fair share of picking winners out of companies that become movers, but I don’t have the risk tolerance for that anymore and this forum isn’t the place to teach people all of that. Because something works and requires minimum effort doesn’t make it rudimentary, that’s completely unfair, derogatory, and insinuates people should try more risky strategies. You completely missed the audience I wrote the comment for. Anyone at your skill and risk level doesn’t need this advice. The equivalent of me suggesting one buy a reliable Honda and here you jump in suggesting a Maserati. Not the same crowd.

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        If you’re serious about investing, it’s worth asking the question “Is Intel in a position to compete with TMSC?” rather than just dumping all your money into an index.

        Unless you work in this sector and have detailed knowledge, youd be delusional to believe to be able to answer that question better than “the market” in general.

        Also i’d say Palantir isnt as much of a secret tip but rather capitalizing on wanting to live under Fascism. If you dont want to live unser Fascism you should wish for Palantir to burn to the ground. This directly contradicts pumping money into them.

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      Actually just avoid the stock market entirely and pay someone else to manage your money.

      I just have an account that I deposit money to every week when I get paid (actually it’s automatically deducted) and never think about it.

      Edit: of course make sure you have your 401k, HSA, and IRA accounts maxed out people. I didn’t think I was going to have to say this but oh well. And high interest savings accounts are nicer and less risky. Do all of those things then get a broker to manage the rest of your money.

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          Sure, but this is my retirement and long term savings. I’m able to admit my limitations and this is one of them.

          I go to a doctor when I’m sick too. I trust professionals.

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            Understandable, but they also have conflicting interests, which is that THEY want to make money

            if you look at the average return rates of managed investing vs unmanaged, you’ll see that you earn more by yourself with pretty much equal risks

            I suspect many investment companies have deals or interest in making you invest in specific companies even though they’re not that profitable

            It’s a bit like everything: food sold already prepared has a nice taste, but not always the best composition and is less worth it than doing it yourself, but if you don’t pay attention enough, you can fuck up your meal. If you are careful, you’ll make much more by yourself and it’ll still have a nice taste. Yes, this comparison doesn’t bring a lot but specialized companies aren’t always the best way of going, and that’s currently the case for investments and stocks

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                They could also make you invest in their partner companies (or even their own) and have themselves invested prior to that in the same company, then sell later, making them a bigger cut, or similar schemes. What I mean is that it’s not that simple.

                overall their work is not that hard and statistically doesn’t pay off, at least in the past years

                They’re trying to stay relevant, but ETFs are now the main way of investing and are providing more interest than picking niche fields. They’re doing what they can to stay relevant, but it doesn’t really work. They still need to complexify a bit your investments to make it seem like they’re doing something useful

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              THEY want to make money

              Yes, but they make money when I make money. I pay like $750 per year to keep my account open, but other than that he only takes a percentage of my monthly gains. The more money he makes me, the more money he gets from me.

              And yes of course I could do enough research to match or very them in gains and I could spend enough time watching the markets to make sure I am making sound decisions. Or I could just pay someone a few hundred bucks a month to do it for me. I know what decision I chose.

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                $750 per year to keep my account open

                WHAAAAAAT

                The thing is it’s relatively simple in the most part. Just invest in a couple mainstream ETFs and boom, no need to be fancy or taking some time after that

                if you want a more safe direction then it’s a bit different but for the most part, that’s it

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            The difference in skill level needed between a good doctor and a good money manager is massive. It’s the difference between years of experience and a few you tube videos.

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              Ah yes there is no such thing as experience or knowledge in financials!

              I’m in IT and it’s the same way! Throw on an LTT playlist and by the end of the day you’ll be a sys admin!

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                I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not but I worked with someone who watched LTT religiously and seemed to get most of his training from LTT. I spent a lot of time figuring out what he did or didn’t do, writing the documentation he didn’t write them fixing what he built incorrectly. LTT tries their best but their background is purely in gaming computers and it really shows, especially with the repeated IT failures that really shouldn’t be happening in an organization of their size

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                you are severely overestimating the capabilities of what qualifies as a good money manager