• FundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 days ago

    fuck nationalism patriotism all that shit.

    Simp for community, not a heirarchical country you were taught to fall in love with.

  • Clot@lemmy.zip
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    14 days ago

    Nationalism is only good when people are fighting colonialism, e.g. palestine or british era India.

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      14 days ago

      I had a pledge that I would buy a Union-made American Flag and plant it firmly in my lawn if two things happened (1) Harris was elected President, and (2) Trump served any prison time.

      Nationalism fuels fascism, but I think patriotism can be a healthy pride; sort of like how one distinguishes confidence from arrogance.

      Ultimately patriotism is a neutral term and is decided upon whether you agree with your national identity in both where your nation is, and where it is heading. I naturally don’t agree with either at present, and so I’m not patriotic. Some are patriotic for the wrong reasons. If we get back to our roots, then I will perhaps one day have pride in being an American again.

  • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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    Yikes. Is this from the “committee to save endangered ideologies”? Which think tank came up with this lol

  • Camelbeard@lemmy.world
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    If your whole identity is based on the fact you where born at some location on this planet, you really need some self reflection and deprogramming

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      I was within these borders while I crawled out of a vagina. it’s one of my greatest achievements and I’ll base my personality on that

  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 days ago

    Nationalism has become such a no go that nationalists will call themselves patriots but it’s just a euphemism for the first

  • Spectre@lemmy.ml
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    14 days ago

    Nobody should be patriotic with the genocidal settler colony that is the USA.

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    14 days ago

    Every “nationalist” believes themselves a “patriot”.

    All this image does is allow you to self-soothe that you’re “one of the good ones”.

  • Abigaelle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Patriotism is just a nice word people invented to be proud of their genocidal and colonialist country without feeling too bad about it.

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    14 days ago

    It’s false and self serving to say all the good parts are patriotism and that’s what I do but all the bad parts are nationalism and that’s what they do.

    All nation states are murderous vermin undeserving of respect. Holding any identity strongly - national, religious or ideological - can turn you into a destructive rube.

    • No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org
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      A national identity based on common positive beliefs helps to keep these beliefs viable. Leaving group identity to the right is one of the reasons why it is so strong

      I can be proud that my country has free health care and still critize that the rich get better treatment

      I can be proud that my country has made it clear in its constitution that every life style and religion are the same before the state while critzing that the reality dies not adhere to this ideal

      While identity is differential to other groups it does not need to be excluding. I.e. everybody who shares our ideals is welcome here instead of people born here are superior to others

      And you can have the identity not be in difference to an other people but e.g. another time. I am proud that germany is harder for the nazis to take over than the Weimar Republic was.

      People want identity and a feeling of community and seeing that as something inherently negative os stupid and dangerously helpful to the right