cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388
Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!
Don’t stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.
Good job UK ! Now cancel Brexit and vote for the EU one !
WHAAAT LETSGOOOOO DABABY. Thank you PirateSoftware for the publicity :3
And fuck you too btw PirateSoftware :)
Is this about the WoW incident? Or dit something else happen?
He has made videos and numerous comments directing his audience not to sign, claiming it will kill games.
Keep pushing. There are probably people using VPNs to sign the petition and those will get purged. Either from idiots who don’t know better or AAA studios trying to get people to stop now that it’s reached the goal. This is true for both the UK and EU petitions.
Awesome! Now let’s get the EU one as well, much closer than before now. (840’000)
5 minutes later and it’s 843k, almost 1k signatures per minute, not bad at all!
This is fucking bonkers.
I ran the math a few days ago, before this absolutely blew the fuck up, and I came to:
We’d need 11k sigs per day until July 31st.
… We’re now apparently at more than double that and climbing exponentially.
Ho Lee Shit.
God DAMN has it been a while since I’ve seen something go actually, truly, organically viral.
I’m just worried some of them are botted, especially now that we’re less than 100k away from 1m.
Jesus what, a week or so ago this was dead in the water.
The EU page started 404ing for me right when it should have hit 1 mil; are we being trolled?
Edit: nvm worked from desktop. Maybe just hug of death.
It is still getting hugged, I guess people are rushing to add their names now that it is a won battle.
Edit: managed to load at 999,614.I am a little worried that some of the surge in signatures has been botting, but I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
You need to identify yourself with a state issued form of identification so I doubt botting happened.
Not in every country. In about half of them, you only need to provide a name, address and date of birth.
Sheesh. Was jot aware of that. Still hope people were not dumb enough to bot it.
Some definitely were, but hopefully not too many. There’s still almost a whole month left to build up a solid buffer.
SIGN THE PETITION DAMMIT
I American’t sign European petitions
no worries, you can help as this will benefit you too. if you are on any online gaming comunities with Europeans, you can share the link.
Didn’t it already reach the threshold last year and the government (or the civil servant in charge of rejecting every petition) closed it saying that current consumer protection laws already apply?
They didn’t close it. They provided an answer early. That as they see it, existing trade and consumer law should cover games and they don’t plan on carving out extra legislation for it but they will “keep an eye on it”.
Now it is over 100k, it doesn’t actually mean anything more than they “might” debate it in parliament.
Now, don’t get me wrong. I signed the petition, and I think they SHOULD look into it. But, my old cynical bones tell me that even if they do have a debate in parliament. It will be at a time when there will be 5 MPs in there, who will have nothing to say on the matter and it will be swept under the rug with a further canned statement drawn up by some civil servant in whitehall talking about consumer law just like the statement before.
Most western governments are on the side of industry, and that includes game developers. I cannot imagine they care about this subject and will do the bare minimum lip service to move past it.
I hope I’m wrong.
I do have a bit more hope for the European parliament. Just a little. They do seem to be a bit more pro-consumer. That is the one that matters most IMO.
My understanding is that they misunderstood the petition, so this new one is rephrased in an attempt to avoid another misinterpretation
Politicians seem very good at misunderstanding things when it suits them.
Both are past 100k now! I want to issue a special “fuck you” to all the idiot streamers that tried to kill SKG. And of course a special “go fuck yourself” to PirateSoftware and Asmongold for being fuckwit right wing tools for corporations. You have a special place in my heart as illiterate lapdogs to shitty corporations and right wing shills.
I know about PirateDouchebag, but I am not aware of Asmongold’s issue.
I apologize but, let’s say that I’ve living under a rock
Asmonpoop is a moronic bum and people went from “this weirdo is strangely entertaining” to " let me hear what my moronic hobo-idol has to say about this".
It is a little bit like how people supported Drumpf as a joke first.
Pirate Software too.
They’re both such idiot trolls.
Still in disbelief people think SKG is going to work. The premise fucking genocides the MMORPG genre. You kill games by implementing this horrible understanding of how games work.
I have never seen more people support games who have no fucking idea how games work and it’s the most frustrating shit ever. Pirate Software is right. It’s not even a debate.
It doesn’t.
It just requires that you provide a verson people can host themselves if you take your game offline.
And if a company refuses? They’re dead anyway. This is not well thought out and PS called it out. You have no actionable solution but are calling for one to just appear.
If they refuse to make a totally reasonable addition to their game then yeah they can’t publish it wow what a concept.
Lol so just kill all MMORPGs. Got it. You’re so smart.
I can’t wait for this to effectively do nothing oe alternatively kill games that have an online only capability that refuse to devote work to force a single player model/release their netcode.
This is the stupidest, well intentioned movement I’ve seen in awhile and the fervor behind it is a waste. You know what you want but refuse to understand why it can’t happen. You chase the past not realizing you can never go back.
This is most republican shit I’ve ever seen. “Make games great again!” Jesus.
No need to be so salty. Maybe instead just read what skg really is about because you obviously have misunderstood it completely.
People are sitting on PS for giving a completely correct take. I’ve read SKG and even listened to what the petition owners have said. I’ve stayed in the loop which is why it’s so frustrating to watch people with noble intentions cannibalize people for telling you it’s not only misguided but impossible.
Legislation will not compel a dying company to release code that will let any random person breathe life back into it on their own whim. Period.
Legislation will not compel a dying company to release code
Well I guess then it’s a good thing that the petition doesn’t demand that.
Upon reading the UK version over again you’re right - it’s even worse. It states that companies no longer be allowed to ‘disable’ games which they often don’t do. They just stop maintaining them until the infrastructure for it disappears.
I expected at the very least gamers would have understood the problem they’re complaining about but I got ahead of myself. The only thing SKG might accomplish legally is to allow third parties to host servers at End of Life but the counter argument to that is cheaters using their own servers.
None of this is thought out. You’re demanding a solution be created AND implemented. This will go nowhere. Pirate Software was right and it’s stunning.
Upon reading the UK version over again you’re right
:)
it’s even worse.
sigh
Why?
It states that companies no longer be allowed to ‘disable’ games which they often don’t do. They just stop maintaining them until the infrastructure for it disappears.
You’re close. Maybe read it again. Or something. I don’t know.
Maybe instead of being the condescending dickhead you and yours project onto Pirate Software, you could instead point out specifics since you’re advocating for it. I’m confident you can’t though since I’m sure you haven’t read shit, just listened to people slobber all over it.
Maybe we wouldn’t have to be such condescending dickheads if you cared to not make up stuff.
the initiative seeks to prevent the remote disabling of videogames by the publishers, before providing reasonable means to continue functioning of said videogames without the involvement from the side of the publisher.
That’s the core idea. Publishers should just make sure that after they milked their product it can somehow be run without their interference.
That doesn’t require sources. In fact, this doesn’t even state any method that is preferred. Could they release sources? Sure. They could also release server binaries. They could also patch out the connection to their servers and only leave people with local multiplayer mode or something. They could do whatever. The initiative doesn’t care.
The practice of licensing a product indefinitely but then just disabling it remotely is hostile to consumers. If they really, really want to keep their business model, they should sell licenses that are limited to a certain timeframe right from the start. Selling perpetual licenses and then disabling them without leaving consumers with any means to still access what they paid for shouldn’t be legal and probably isn’t.
Also this right here:
The initiative does not seek to acquire ownership of said videogames, associated intellectual rights or monetization rights, neither does it expect the publisher to provide resources for the said videogame once they discontinue it while leaving it in a reasonably functional (playable) state.
Nobody wants your ip. Just don’t break stuff you sold.
Hmmm? The UK isn’t part of the EU anymore so they won’t have much impact lol.
That’s why it was a completely separate, smaller one
Just threw me for a loop for a moment that it uses the same name and that this page displays links to both.
