• fdnomad@programming.dev
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    22 days ago

    Was there any reason to make this an ios app as opposed to a website hosted outside the US? I’m really not surprised by the removal. What did they expect? All the Tech CEOs came to the inauguration with bags of cash.

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      22 days ago

      Building an iOS app is faster and simpler than building a web app. The developer also said he took advantage of some privacy features in the iOS development kit that made it easy to keep people anonymous.

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        22 days ago

        But Apple still knows you downloaded and used the app. Apple collects plenty of data on iOS, and their “privacy” marketing only applies to third party apps downloaded from the App Store.

    • blave@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      Wrong

      “Ownership“ doesn’t mean “I can do whatever I want with it”.

      edit: wow, Redditors are better at accepting the truth, lol

      • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        “Ownership” totally does mean it’s yours and you can do whatever you want with it.

        That means you can do it, not that you should, nor that what you do won’t have consequences.

        It just means your phone won’t stop you from downloading an unapproved app just like a gun won’t stop you from loading an unapproved bullet.

        It means your gun has a safety mechanism you can unlock to shoot, as does your phone to download “unverified” apps.

        It means you can sell either freely to someone else without it becoming bricked or the new owner losing any rights (lookin’ at you, Tesla cars).

        It means defaulting on the loan will require the physical reposession of your phone or gun, and that neither will magically lock you out of using it using telemetry.

        It means anyone with the right knowledge and tools can fix your phone and it’ll work, just like your gun.

        It means your phone works for you, and not for someone else - just like your gun.

        Your phone is a tool. Just like your gun. It can be used for good - and for bad.

        What you do with it is up to you, and not up to it or its manufacturer.

        It means you can shoot people with your gun, just as you can extort and blackmail people with your phone. Nothing, other than your own morality, the morals of society and therule of law are preventing you from doing bad things. Certainly not the will of the manufacturer.

        Any forensic inquiry into a phone on a crime scene would be like that of a gun.

        Any taking of your phone from your home or person would require a warrant - like with a gun.

        Any inquiry into your phone’s contents and qualities should require outside tools - like a similar inquiry into your gun.

        Your phone won’t have a special police-only history of what you’ve used it for - like your gun.

        Your phone won’t report what you’ve been doing with it to 3rd parties without your consent - like won’t your gun.

        And so on.

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          21 days ago

          Ownership of a phone doesn’t mean that the makers of said phone have to give you the source code and build in ways for you to be able to do things they don’t want.

          Your own the device that does what it was advertised as. That’s it.

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        22 days ago

        edit: wow, Redditors are better at accepting the truth, lol

        So go pander to them.

        If I own something, I can do whatever I like with it because it’s mine.

        If I can’t do what I like, it’s not truly mine.

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          21 days ago

          This isn’t true in regards to basically anything that runs closed source software. You can do whatever you can, but there are plenty of things you might want to do that you can’t do. That doesn’t mean you don’t own it.

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    21 days ago

    The apps purpose is to aide illegals, break the law, and to incite/encourage political violence against law enforcement - the owner will find himself in a world of hurt the more he pushes this.

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    22 days ago

    People are so stupid in this country. Do what the EU did and make it law that they have to offer sideloading and other app stores and payment methods.

    It should be the law to begin with. This walled garden shit is really just another word for controlling what the user does with the device they purchased and not allowing them to do business with anybody else exclusively to add software without apple’s approval and protection racket fee.

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      22 days ago

      Everything is about control. The internet was left open by accident for a while and they are working hard to “fix” it. They are just trying to be slightly less obvious about it than China was. All of the forced AI tools, required apps and stuff like that are just ways to move users away from the open web.

      Once most users restrict their Internet usage to ONLY content provided by the large companies (for example, once people no longer click on any Google result), then Internet providers will start granting access to the content from large companies for free and charge a lot more for access to anything else.

      In 10, maybe 20 years, we will be needing to tell our internet providers when we change jobs so that they may change which “custom” internet services we get to have access to specifically for work.

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      22 days ago

      EU didn’t do anything except lower the tax on developers from 30% to 27%. And they still require Apple’s rubber stamp to install.

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        22 days ago

        They should have been concerned about OS lock-in, instead of app store lock-in. Imagine being able to install the OS of your choice on your phone.

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          The EU shouldn’t be concerned about any of that, because it’s none of their business tbh.

          If you want to install whatever OS you want on a phone, you’re free to go and make a phone and do just that. No governments should be able to force a company to do what you’re asking. It’s stupid to even suggest that Apple would shell out billions on hardware design etc and then be forced to give people a way to run AOSP on it and have it work.

          Do you people even hear yourself? Should Sony be forced to build a way for you to be able to install AppleTV on their TVs? Should Nintendo be forced to build functionality to let users install windows on the Switch 2, making drivers for everything etc?

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    22 days ago

    Back in the aughts I was an apple fanboy. Later they no longer had the edge but I won’t say it was completely not an option. Now it is completely not an option.

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      22 days ago

      Just in case, if you’re (still) a Nintendo, Sony, Tesla, Disney, Spotify, … fan, it’s not too late to change your mind about them too :)

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        22 days ago

        Totally agree, but what to do? Just forsake all entertainment, media, and technology at this point?

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    22 days ago

    With this and Google stopping side loading in Android, I’m going to be looking hard into Linux phones.

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      22 days ago

      They’re not stopping it, they are planning to introduce it to the platform; no one sideloads on Android today, because it’s not a walled garden yet.

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        22 days ago

        I don’t think people got your point. I assume you meant that people aren’t “sideloading” in android yet, because you just download an APK file and install it. Same as installing an EXE file in windows outside of the Microsoft Store is not called “sideloading” either.

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          22 days ago

          Could the EFF or individuals sponsor apps from devs who refuse to identify to Big Goog?

          Dev sends EFF the source code,

          EFF registers with Google,

          EFF submits the app,

          Everybody’s happy except a number of people for obvious reasons but at least the app’s verified

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        22 days ago

        Sorry, you’re well out of the loop on this one, boss. Sideloading has been common practice for thousands? millions? of users since the beginning of android. There are plenty of apps not listed on Google Play - the ones that come top mind are Fortnight for a time and now the Epic Games Store app, and some VPN apps that couldn’t offer features like ad/malware blocking in their Play store versions. Sideloading means downloading an executable install file (an .APK file in this case) rather than installing from Google Play. And they are SEVERELY limiting this ability next year.