- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
Why it matters: If the White House acts on that legal analysis, it would dramatically escalate President Trump’s pressure on Senate Democrats to end the week-old shutdown by denying back pay to as many as 750,000 federal workers after the shutdown.
I’m not sure it would. In the past, federal workers were always paid after the government opened up. If they aren’t paid this time when the GOP holds both the Executive and the Legislative branches, it would be silly to claim the Democrats would have the power to withhold payment.
Does this include ICE agents? That would be pretty funny.
Yup they are currently unpaid. Unsure about bonuses since they make a decent amount in that.
I have a friend that works for TSA. A few days ago he showed up to work only to find that 27 of his peers decided not to. And considering they won’t get back pay, what’s the point? People need to feed and house themselves and the government has made it clear in the past that they’re not about to treat essential employees as if they’re actually essential.
They will get back pay. The law says they get back pay and these statements have not changed the law.
There is no law.
Why is anyone still clinging to hope that the law will help anyone at this point?
Why? Really?
Because as a nation you’ve already decided to roll over and accept fascism. No not all of you want this, but collectively, you are a failed nation and we are about to see the final act.
People are clinging to hope, even if unjustified, because the only two options are the law and the system prevail (currently all evidence says no) or people are going to get very uncomfortable and more people are going to die. Either by their choice now, or courtesy of MAGA later.
Can I ask honestly what you think we should be doing? I’m a traditionally Democratic voter in California, I have 2 kids, I don’t own guns. Should I go buy guns and wage a 1-man war against a military with tanks and drones a thousand miles from my house? Should I tell my kids “sorry, I know you like going to the park with me, but I have to go on a suicide mission because the principle is more important than the chances of success.” I think the concept that Americans have rolled over to fascism is pretty unfair; we’re a country as big as other continents and just because a strategic selection of districts were targeted by the minority in a way that “won the game” doesn’t mean people aren’t on the precipice of participating in something that actually looks like it would have a chance at success. There are no options for resistance right now that feel like the would even come close to be worth the risk to my family.
I’ve lobbied, marched, donated to causes, had honest talks with people on the other side trying to convince them empathetically rather than berating them, and to be honest, getting anything I’ve done hand-waved away by passive aggressive comments is as defeating as anything else. I’m pretty sure a big reason fascism is taking over is because people get their energy out by making increasingly vitriolic internet comments which is as inconsequential as it gets. Americans don’t organize until things get truly intolerable, and this frog boiling going on hasn’t crossed the line enough for people to reach critical mass.
I think it might be time we push for a general strike, and not this 3 years down the road bullshit.
A general strike and soon would fuck shit up for the leaches on top
You’re arguing with a 1 month old account, fyi. Don’t get sucked into people trolling or telling you to give up.
If I didn’t know any better I would think there is a larger motive behind all the very blatant trolls that keep popping up on .ca.





