I have full faith that if the DNC had the votes to remove trump, which is 67 senators and a house majority, then they would go through with this impeachment trial.
They have 47 Senators with caucus. This was never going to accomplish anything, and I’m glad we’re saving this for later.
Why save it for later? Because it would impede Congress from accomplishing its business? But it’s a Republican controlled Congress that’s hell-bent on passing more aspects of Project 2025. So obstruction is really the only play available for the Dems.
If the shoe were on the other foot, McConnell or Gingrich would have held that brake pedal to the floor. Even though we all know there will be no personal consequences, it’s a method of Delay, Deny, Defend against the handover to fascism.
Laws pass through congress almost every day, on the 23rd this month the senate passed 13 bills including one that removed the requirement for Alaskan Native Villages to convey land in trust to the state while conducting business. We need a congress even if we don’t like the budget bill, the really bad stuff gets filibustered anyways.
Aid must go through congress, arming our allies like Ukraine must go through congress, limiting state’s powers must go through congress. Even fucking USPS distribution centers and offices go through congress.
Even if you hold the impeachment trial with no consequences, it comes off to the general public, who a plurality voted for Trump or majority voted for Trump or stayed home, as being unfair and heavily biased so it won’t gain any votes in the midterms either.
They could have abstained then. Would have had the same practical outcome, but they would not have sent the signal of support to Trump. Also if they had voted in favor it would have shown unity and dedication to fight Trump, something that would have gotten a lot of disgruntled voters back. Instead they made sure to prove that they have learned nothing from the elections and they would rather concede power to Fascism unopposed than stop being murderous imperialists.
No, they don’t have to be present at all and when they are present then they have the option to vote Yea, Nay, or Abstain. I’m saying if only 50 people in the house vote total and 26 of them vote yea then depending on the nature of the vote it can pass.
On the topic of Impeachment, yes, it means fuck all to primary these congressmen over not holding a silly ritual with no real consequences.
Ditto for anything that requires a constitutional amendment or defeating filibuster like undoing citizens united or passing medical for all. We need to Remove the GOP, not just get better DNC.
VOTES - you get to see how everyone voted, which helps generally with ads during election time, and specifically when it comes time to hold sedition trials on all these Nazi collaborators.
Again, you’re another person who needs some lessons on politics and procedure before commenting.
Note: my bad, you’re still the same under educated, unqualified commenter as before.
doing their sworn duty to get paid to talk a lot, pass no laws, and not remove the perpetrator
showing the people they still care and are trying to get paid to talk a lot, pass no laws, and not remove the perpetrator
paper trail of accusations, arguments, etc which exist whether or not they get paid to talk a lot, pass no laws, and not remove the perpetrator
VOTES - you get to see how everyone voted on whether or not to get paid to talk a lot, pass no laws, and not remove the perpetrator, which helps generally with ads during election time, and specifically when it comes time to hold sedition trials on all these Nazi collaborators after the GOP are reduced to an extreme minority of congress.
When you say “racism is bad” or stuff like this to show how moderate you are, nobody disagrees with you. But then your dig in your heels about absolutely absurd bullshit.
You’re expecting people to give each comment the benefit of the doubt. Lemmy is small and you’ve made a reputation for yourself.
Primary. Every. Single. One.
a P.E.S.O. for president Taco’s followers, good pitch
One taco? That’ll be 128 PESOs.
Edit: that’s about 6€ or $7.50 USD. These must be LA tacos.
Never had French tacos before, are we talking poutine french or France french?
Los Angeles tacos, but I’d be game for a poutine taco if I ever dare to set foot in North America again.
I have full faith that if the DNC had the votes to remove trump, which is 67 senators and a house majority, then they would go through with this impeachment trial.
They have 47 Senators with caucus. This was never going to accomplish anything, and I’m glad we’re saving this for later.
Why save it for later? Because it would impede Congress from accomplishing its business? But it’s a Republican controlled Congress that’s hell-bent on passing more aspects of Project 2025. So obstruction is really the only play available for the Dems.
If the shoe were on the other foot, McConnell or Gingrich would have held that brake pedal to the floor. Even though we all know there will be no personal consequences, it’s a method of Delay, Deny, Defend against the handover to fascism.
Laws pass through congress almost every day, on the 23rd this month the senate passed 13 bills including one that removed the requirement for Alaskan Native Villages to convey land in trust to the state while conducting business. We need a congress even if we don’t like the budget bill, the really bad stuff gets filibustered anyways.
Aid must go through congress, arming our allies like Ukraine must go through congress, limiting state’s powers must go through congress. Even fucking USPS distribution centers and offices go through congress.
Even if you hold the impeachment trial with no consequences, it comes off to the general public, who a plurality voted for Trump or majority voted for Trump or stayed home, as being unfair and heavily biased so it won’t gain any votes in the midterms either.
I am not. There should be an impeachment for every high crime, of which there have been a lot already. The Senate will convict eventually.
Maybe need to wait for blue midterms before getting the ball rolling.
They could have abstained then. Would have had the same practical outcome, but they would not have sent the signal of support to Trump. Also if they had voted in favor it would have shown unity and dedication to fight Trump, something that would have gotten a lot of disgruntled voters back. Instead they made sure to prove that they have learned nothing from the elections and they would rather concede power to Fascism unopposed than stop being murderous imperialists.
I could be wrong but I think Impeachment votes follow voting majority rules, not yeas against totals.
This impeachment is political ammunition, we shouldn’t shoot our shot without any chance of nailing our target.
I thought the elected representatives get to vote on every issue that is raised. Do they have a limited amount of votes in the US?
No, they don’t have to be present at all and when they are present then they have the option to vote Yea, Nay, or Abstain. I’m saying if only 50 people in the house vote total and 26 of them vote yea then depending on the nature of the vote it can pass.
Guillotine Party
Republicans first (after a fair trial of course), then maybe these guys too.
“Guillotine Party” is to the Democrats what the Tea Party was to Republicans: a complete overhaul from the inside out.
Get ready to learn what the dems are willing to do to stop any kind of left insurgency within the party.
Unless the next major fashion craze is the “Kevlar Turtleneck”, I dont think it particularly matters what they do.
Okay but if you don’t remove 20 Republicans then it still accomplishes nothing. 67 Senators needed to remove Trump from office.
… are you seriously implying that any gains the party makes are pointless if they don’t hit the 2/3rds threshold?
I’d sit this one out if I were you, take the time to brush up on politics and critical thinking.
On the topic of Impeachment, yes, it means fuck all to primary these congressmen over not holding a silly ritual with no real consequences.
Ditto for anything that requires a constitutional amendment or defeating filibuster like undoing citizens united or passing medical for all. We need to Remove the GOP, not just get better DNC.
“A silly ritual with no real consequences”
… aside from
Again, you’re another person who needs some lessons on politics and procedure before commenting.
Note: my bad, you’re still the same under educated, unqualified commenter as before.
You’ve had your chance to get better, bye troll.
Good luck convincing anybody of anything, you’re going to need it.
“Why do people downvote my posts before reading each one?”
Idk what you mean, I read before I downvoted you.
Ah so you’ve just been trolling this whole time and don’t actually have the worst take on literally every subject.
Do any of your replies ever have anything to do with the comment above them?
Heres some takes you can feel free to publicly disagree with:
Dictatorships are an offense to humanity and the largest threat to our future.
All people deserve opportunity for happiness and prosperity regardless of socioeconomic or ethnic background.
We should tax the rich such that billionaires don’t exist.
Reform should be the only goal of incarceration, which means providing the needs of inmates to accomplish that. Private Prisons should not exist.
When you say “racism is bad” or stuff like this to show how moderate you are, nobody disagrees with you. But then your dig in your heels about absolutely absurd bullshit.
You’re expecting people to give each comment the benefit of the doubt. Lemmy is small and you’ve made a reputation for yourself.
I’m sorry that you don’t agree that being against racism is a progressive stance.
Sorry but not surprised. Pretty standard for you Tankies.