I hear you and what you say sounds reasonable but I haven’t actually met any younger people in real life that do that shit. The kids seem to be fighting mighty hard to me.
Now, closely related but I think different (correct me if I misunderstood you) I do know some real-life accelerationists who felt that not voting would “bring down the system faster so it can be replaced by something better” which is horribly, laughably naive.
I have on a regular basis. So much so I quit a lot of stuff to avoid their endless insane stupidity and their raw emotional takes that are totally delusional.
Conservative-coding of things that are actually just healthy personality balance is a real thing. Bravery, duty and basic acceptance we’re mortals in an ugly world also come to mind.
There’s enough history written down to say for sure it’s going to self correct. Hopefully not in the “everyone like that went to a camp, but some of their ideas found a new audience a century later” way.
Guns are a great example under “accepting we’re mortals in an ugly world”, actually. Nobody is seriously claiming they’re going away, but the way they’re talked about by the left, you would think undoing a technology is on the table.
I mean, you can still want more gun control, and most other nations have gone that way, but the only people mentioning they’ll still be around in some way tend to be on the right - because that’s ugly.
For example: the US flag. It has become a stereotype in the US that if you fly an American flag on your house or car, you are a conservative/right-wing nationalist. “America bad” is a lefty stereotype for good reason.
Fun fact, it was leaking into Canada for a while. Unnecessary maple leafs meant you probably didn’t like vaccines or Trudeau. Then you guys (well, Trump; we know there’s another party) talked about annexing us and made patriotism neutral again. Thanks?
January 6th was a weapons demonstration, not a real attempt at coup.
That’s an interesting way of looking at it, although I’m not convinced it wasn’t just stupidity on their part. The right also have hangups that will self-correct, in their own way.
That’s kind of what I was going to say about tribalism as a force, too. Nobody turns their noses up at an Irish name today, and nobody will be impressed by lifted pickups and ill-informed scriptural references in the future. The idea of elected representatives has been around for centuries, though.
Totally agree. I hung a flag for the same reason, why should the right get to “own” the symbol of America. I ended up taking it down though since my wife thought it would give people the wrong impression of us…
We have a pride flag & an American flag. And sometimes a Jolly Roger. I agree, you cannot let the conservatives define themselves as the real Americans. I am here, I’m from here, wanting a better America is patriotic.
nah this is exactly why i gave up a lot of social stuff. too many bubble-brain idiots who become violent the second they hear an opinion or an idea that they mildly disagree with. it’s not just young people either.
i never dealt with such craziness 10+ years ago, but it started exploding with social media growth and is rampant now.
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I hear you and what you say sounds reasonable but I haven’t actually met any younger people in real life that do that shit. The kids seem to be fighting mighty hard to me.
Now, closely related but I think different (correct me if I misunderstood you) I do know some real-life accelerationists who felt that not voting would “bring down the system faster so it can be replaced by something better” which is horribly, laughably naive.
I have on a regular basis. So much so I quit a lot of stuff to avoid their endless insane stupidity and their raw emotional takes that are totally delusional.
Conservative-coding of things that are actually just healthy personality balance is a real thing. Bravery, duty and basic acceptance we’re mortals in an ugly world also come to mind.
There’s enough history written down to say for sure it’s going to self correct. Hopefully not in the “everyone like that went to a camp, but some of their ideas found a new audience a century later” way.
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Guns are a great example under “accepting we’re mortals in an ugly world”, actually. Nobody is seriously claiming they’re going away, but the way they’re talked about by the left, you would think undoing a technology is on the table.
I mean, you can still want more gun control, and most other nations have gone that way, but the only people mentioning they’ll still be around in some way tend to be on the right - because that’s ugly.
Fun fact, it was leaking into Canada for a while. Unnecessary maple leafs meant you probably didn’t like vaccines or Trudeau. Then you guys (well, Trump; we know there’s another party) talked about annexing us and made patriotism neutral again. Thanks?
That’s an interesting way of looking at it, although I’m not convinced it wasn’t just stupidity on their part. The right also have hangups that will self-correct, in their own way.
That’s kind of what I was going to say about tribalism as a force, too. Nobody turns their noses up at an Irish name today, and nobody will be impressed by lifted pickups and ill-informed scriptural references in the future. The idea of elected representatives has been around for centuries, though.
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Totally agree. I hung a flag for the same reason, why should the right get to “own” the symbol of America. I ended up taking it down though since my wife thought it would give people the wrong impression of us…
We have a pride flag & an American flag. And sometimes a Jolly Roger. I agree, you cannot let the conservatives define themselves as the real Americans. I am here, I’m from here, wanting a better America is patriotic.
Good point. I think I need to pair it with something else to make clear what it means to me.
nah this is exactly why i gave up a lot of social stuff. too many bubble-brain idiots who become violent the second they hear an opinion or an idea that they mildly disagree with. it’s not just young people either.
i never dealt with such craziness 10+ years ago, but it started exploding with social media growth and is rampant now.