Crazy to me that people make it their life’s mission to shit on others for the most random things
Narcissistic personality disorder’s a “fun” area of psychology to explore. The way they put down others to keep themselves comparatively above others in their fragile egoic minds, like entering social-domination mode for their perceived survival is a constant compunction for them, unable to distinguish from their inner world that other people really exist beyond just a means to their own petty ends, and will never honestly introspect on it.
We’re all using gold from a supernova right now to look at this
Men will mock astrology then wear dirty panties week to week so their favorite sports team will win.
Magic thinking is in all of us. It makes more sense to view the sky and seasons as affecting your personality than half the luck, karma, prayer bullshit half the people mocking this stuff do
Personally I think there is reason in astrology. Animals literally have babies at a specific time of year, this habit predates fucking mammals themselves.
So babies born in winter might have a different temperament than those born in summer it makes sense to me evolutionarily. More than any other magic think I can think of.
edit: panty wearing magic thinking sports boys triggered
You’re logic be like: I’m an irrational guy => everyone is irrational => my kind of irrational is better than their kind of irrational because reasons.
or you know the more normal, awareness of magical thinking and still able to enjoy really normal things without being a dick lol
I’m not a dick.
I also describe people who disagree with me as panty wearing magic thinking sports boys.
on a post mocking astrology typically a woman/queer hobby?
What? Wow. That’s very sexist.
I’m with you. In ye olden times, hitting different development milestones during points of the year with different resource availabilities probably had an effect on personalities, and once a pattern is observed people like to make up a story to explain it. If you aren’t letting it rule your life it’s a bit of harmless fun. Like a lucky number or color. People are too protective of their own irrationalities while denouncing other’s.
I know what it means but… Uh… It’s technically quite wrong.
If a star does a Gamma Ray burst right in Earth’s path we’ll all be pretty strongly effected.
That’s not even going over that Earth is a planet and the Sun is a star, both which are effecting us on a daily basis.
And the sun is gravitationally effected by other stars which in turn effects Earth which in turn effects us…
If that happens, the debate would be moot because we’d all be vaporized, or we’d be sent back to the stone ages, depending on how far away the star is.
The dose makes the poison.
We’re being hit by gamma ray bursts from far far away all the time.
Actually, this planet affects my life every day.
If they fall on earth, they do.
Also the sun probably has the most influence on us than any other thing in our lives.
Forgot about that.
The stars and planets affect the lives of astronomers every day though.
So… Jupiter pulls the barycenter outside Sol… but this has no effect on our lives… interesting. How’s this possible that we’re insulated from any influence?
Not true, I will travel to view a solar eclipse, therefore at least one star is affecting my life.
How could they? They’re not real and the earth is flat
Exactly. Also, there are 3 moons. Most people think there’s only moon because only 1 at a time is visible.
And don’t forget that time is cubed!!
a capricorn made this smh
Not to be that guy… But stars and planets definitely have the potential to affect all of our lives, just not in any positive w-- the sun goes supernova
Or, rather than supernova (or ballooning to a giant, in a few billion years) just the flares and corona mass ejections.
Which in turn are influenced by (for one) Jupiter’s influence on the sun cycle.
You won’t be saying that when Earth drifts into the path of a gamma ray burst.
Space weather. Mhmm.
It’s too bad when people take these things too seriously. Astrology taken as an amusement or even as a personal meditation/problem solving toolbox (IMO, Tarot excels in this) can have some value. The horoscopes and natal charts haven’t really never interested me, but there are some variations like horary astrology that are a bit quirkier.
It’s too bad when people take these things too seriously.
Naw, it’s fun to just deadpan it with facts, imagining the voice of Richard Ayoade. ;)
And, +1 for Tarot. I was doubly dismissive of it for ages (oft saying things like “just read the room/reality all around, without the reductive set”). Now it’s fun to entertain ideas between there being some kind of quantum entangled collective unconscious stuff going on, and it just being placebo positive ideas to Rorschach-test over and introspect and reflect upon.
Let’s just say for a moment that the placement of the planet earth at the moment of your birth actually mattered. Hell, if conscience was pulled from dark matter or dark energy at the moment of our birthday as Earth past through a certain area are the universe, that would be a cool idea.
But the problem with astrology is this assumption that our solar system is stationary and that every year, the earth nears the exact same location as your birth.
But this is entirely wrong because the sun is orbiting the super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. So even if you believed the astrology stuff, you would have to make a calendar for 230 million years.
But wait the universe is expanding and our galaxy is moving! Even after a galactic year you would still not be located at the location of your birth. Woops astrology is dumb.
One thing that could have an effect is the time of year you are born because it seasonal changes. A spring baby will be exposed to more sunlight than a fall baby in the first 6 months of life outside the womb, and the opposite for the second 6 months.
What that actually affects other than maybe the strength of their immune system early on, I can only speculate about. But it would be a mechanism through which birth sign can be correlated to personality or health.
And if there is such a correlation, it would make sense that the signs and dates falling out of sync as the constellations process wouldn’t have any effect on anything because the stars and planets don’t matter as much as the seasons do.
Though it does make me wonder if there have been studies analyzing personality difference statistics based on birthdate. Though I think it would have to be based on full birthdate (year included) due to year to year weather variations, as well as location dependent due to geographical weather variations. Like if there is such a correlation, it’s probably stronger in Canada than California.
That (seasonal/weather/climate changes) would be handy data to have to tease out what remains of whatever gravitational/light/torsion/whatever influences remain.
I wonder who would have the resources, interest, and integrity, to fund, facilitate and honestly report the results of any such study.
The biological/epigenetic responses to such subtle influences could be quite varied, in depth of analysis.
It can also decide if you’re always the oldest or youngest person in your class, which might be a big deal
wait wouldn’t this mean you could predict people’s personalities similar to how we can predict the weather but not change it
And a massive reason for legal abortions; I wouldn’t want my children to become the passive aggressive, depressive smartass I am. Better to make sure they’re born some other date of the year.
Fret not. You cannot jump in the same river.
Already the outer planets have moved to other signs, and the inner planets wont be in the same positions; wont be forming the same aspects, to that same day of the year, not to mention the further processions and passage of the sun around the galaxy hitting different phases of gravitational waves. Way more going on than just Sol & Earth.
assumption that our solar system is stationary and that every year, the earth nears the exact same location as your birth.
I’ve been casually investigating several astrological systems for years (even since still in my militant atheist materialist phase)… and I’ve not encountered this assumption before. Can you tell me in which astrological system is this assumption found? Sounds interesting.
The zodiac constallations don’t even line up with their original dates anymore, for exactly the kind of reasons you described: the universe and our position in it are not stationary.
This website has a chart for the updated dates (note also that they had to add another zodiac sign because of parallax or something)
And it’s even more complicated than that.
Some systems kept things aligned with the people, some kept things aligned with the stars. Then there’s tropical vs sidereal. And even more complexity to further confound.
And it’s hilarious to watch people try to discredit all astrology with cherry picked argument from ignorance fallacies. Can’t get there from here.
Like when the misalignment with constellations are cited as reason to throw out all astrology as utter bunk, one can retort “so the aspects are still aligned?”. XD
