The mayor’s response was perfect. “ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.”
That should be the response everywhere. Get the fuck out, you’re not welcome here.
I don’t understand how this is considered a good response. They’re just words, the terrorists are still there, and will murder again.
The correct response by the local or state governments would be to arrest them, and put them on trial, together with the federal government for having sent them (and the state government for allowing it in the case of the city).
Anything short of that is collaboration.
At this point, any politician who doesn’t echo that exact sentiment is simply and truly complicit.
but is that all he does? just words, shouldnt he make them leave or arrest them like the LEO should. at that point hes only virtue signalling if he doe nothing about it.
Note that ICE presence in Minneapolis alone was/is about three times the entire Minneapolis police department. They are tremendously outnumbered. Which is just insane.
There are videos of police officers kicking her memorial later so cops side with ice too.
I couldn’t make it out myself, but someone said those were DHS, not MPD
From what I’ve read it’s apparently very complex and not straightforward for a state to arrest or criminally charge a federal officer for something that occurs on duty because of previous precedent from supreme court cases.
Tbh I have no doubt the state AG and many lawyers are trying to figure out what can be done and ideally won’t lead to some sort of civil war because tbh everything with Trump is on the table and we have no clue what the future holds.
He pulled the oldest trick in the book where you purposely escalate and put yourself in danger to justify lethal force. They could have all just kept their distance and nobody would have died.
Even in the video, its clear they weren’t in danger, but you’re right that was their intention.
Good luck for this cowards to do the same trick in Texas and not catch the feedback.
Yeah that ICE agent could easily step out of the way. Clear case of just wanted to murder her for trying to flee her own danger
He did step out of the way. He did not in any way stop the movement of the vehicle.
Remember he needs to be able to declare state of emergency so he can cancel elections.
He’ll do it regardless. Half of what he’s done was already illegal. More of what he’ll do will be illegal. He doesn’t care as long as nobody stops him.
Elections are a state managed process. If he “cancelled” the election, the Blue states could go ahead and have elections anyway. Then when a bunch of new blue congressional reps show up on DC, Trump has to claim they’re illegitimate.
True, but he needs to declare a state of emergency for more than just that.
People - esp in US - need to read up on Hitler’s timeline.
Things will go very fast now. By the end of the year he will have abolished the democratic party as a domestic terrorist organisation.
The complete lack of any pushback on him breaking his own Epstein law and him kidnapping a foreign head of state will only fuel him up more.
He wasn’t in any danger. Cold-blooded murder. Anyone without a “badge” would be charged and sent to prison.
They will be sued, and lose. We (taxpayers who already pay taxes on toilet paper, et al) will be gracious enough to pay for the lawsuit ourselves, of course. No need for them or their pension to pay!
Also, they need a raise and more tanks, lots of tanks.
I’m sure the cop will get away with it as the car was going in his direction. But he has SO much time to get out of the way. His first instinct is as to murder her.
The video shows he murdered her after stepping to the side and out of danger.
In fact, he put many more people’s lives in danger by shooting.
Plain as day to you and me, but I don’t think this will be an open and shut case. He can make the argument he didn’t know what direction the car was going.
It’s not an argument anyone who studies this video would buy.
Now we find out if he faces a jury of his peers.
Dude gets promoted and things get worse. I’m just enjoying the last bit of life left before we all die or spend the next 10 years in war.
that’s not a cop
is there an effective difference?
Nope
Thugs committing murder. Plain and simple. Such is the way for the law and order party.
At some point ICE is going to find out not only conservative white men are armed. And to be honest, whatever happens when they do, they’ll deserve it.
And mother of three.
I found a better angle of the shooter
Someone zoomed in on the other site: https://v.redd.it/km2ilti3g0cg1
I suggest downloading the video if you have a chance.
I’ve archived it in several locations already.
could you post it here? it has been removed from reddit
Post it
It’s been removed by the mods already.
Which is why we are all here instead of there.
ICE murders people in Amerikkka because that’s what Amerikkka wants.
No. Real Americans do not want that. We never have. Real Americans want these racist assholes to be held accountable and punished for their treasonous acts.
I’m guessing they meant that America voted for this? I dunno.
That’s a negatory there too.
Keep in mind that a lot of states have had their districts redrawn in such ways that make it so the Republicans will win, and the courts have upheld these illegally drawn maps in one manner or another.
In other words, while the system is working as intended, the intention is not what the majority wants. It’s rigged so the “house” always wins.
That doesn’t matter when voting for president. Trump won both the electoral votes and the popular vote. The people quite literally did vote for this. However, I don’t think many of Trump’s voters actually believed he would do this and be as cruel about it as he has been.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, you’re right. Trump won both the electoral and popular votes in 2024.
It was a plurality, and not nearly as much of a landslide as the electoral map and Trump will have you thinking it was, but he won.
The states are borderline gerrymandered in and of themselves, but that doesn’t matter for the popular vote totals.
Right. You can make the argument that the electoral college is an out of date system and he should have lost in 2016. I would even whole heartedly agree with you. In 2024 there really wasn’t any controversy that the DNC didn’t inflict on themselves.
People might be disagreeing with me when I say that some or maybe even most Trump supporters don’t approve of how he is using ICE. I think national polling shows that to be true though. Yes they wanted to kick out the undocumented, but I don’t think they realized how bad the action of it was going to be. It was something that sounded good to them in theory and then a lot of them have come to regret it after seeing it in practice.
This whole ‘not us’ is just a convenient way to wash your bloody hands. You all got him in power, you all keep him in power.
it doesnt matter for senate, or presidential elections. voter suppression is whats really killing the DEM votes in the red states.
Voting is only an expression of intent, not an actual action of improvement.
Gerrymandering or not, the voting system doesn’t prevent you from sidestepping its obvious failures and taking the country back by force.
(As the saying goes, “if voting actually helped things, they’d have outlawed it by now”)
What I meant wasn’t that it’s true, but that maybe that’s what the commenter is saying happened.
It’s edgelord bullshit like this that’s just so fucking disgusting. Fucking victim blaming dipshittery all because you’re painting a country and all of it’s inhabitants with the same brush as the absolute scum in power. You think native Americans want this bullshit? You think American women want this bullshit? You think black Americans want this bullshit? You gonna paint every American as wanting this bullshit because you wanna be a pos edgelord on fucking lemmy? Go fuck yourself, you’re a bad person.
They didn’t say “Americans”, they said “Amerikkka” to specify what kind of American they are referring to. KKK is from the Klu Klux Klan, a racist protestant terrorist organization.
“Amerikkkans” refers to them and their supporters (whether members or not).
Be kind, don’t start this “bullshit bad person” crap, thank you.
No he isn’t. He referred to the entire country as amerikkka. There’s so much hate for America and it’s people rn all because a bunch of elites are screwing with the whole planet. The American people don’t support this thinly vield gestapo.
If they are using “Amerikkka” to indicate all of America, they are misusing the term. Which isn’t unusual now or anything.
I’m referring to the country as seen from the outside. I can only assume it’s even worse from the inside.
But enough with the pleasantries, they are unneeded… I hold Amerikkka to the same or even higher standard than other countries. Aren’t you the oh so mightiest country in the world? Well then, get to fixing yourselves. For fuck’s sake, even the French did it better than you so far.
This is incorrect.
The last protest in USA was big, as big as if EVERYONE IN PARIS protested at once.
Considering all of France has 5% of the landmass of the USA while being one fifth of the population, well… there you go.
The USA is massive. France is more comparable to California alone.
A more apt comparison would be USA compared to the European Union. Can you get everyone in the EU to protest like in France?
No.
We’re not magical. We’re just people.
This is absolutely a bullshit take. Like, yeah, no shit I noticed the reference to the kkk. In this context it was used as yet another generalization of “america bad”. It’s childish bullshit. There was no differentiation between the kkk and other Americans, did you fucking notice that? You think maybe that’s something that would piss off any sane person since like, oh, I don’t fucking know, maybe other Americans are black and descendants of those violently oppressed by that terrorist organization? Maybe that’s a super insane thing to imply while suggesting Americans are being murdered by ICE because that’s what they fucking wanted? Grow up.
Don’t play games with not understanding how being kind works. There are people who are bad people, and the person victim blaming people being murdered by fascists in their own government is one of those bad people. That kind of behavior should absolutely NOT be tolerated. Letting toxic bullshit slide like that isn’t in any way kind since it actively makes the world a worse place.
Damn, you’re not a very pleasant person, I get it! Go on and freak the fuck out, it’s cute
But you’re not making the world one jot better. I am not inviting you to my party
You’re not the type to honestly engage with things and give the less than useless “clapbacks” aren’t you?
You can either be insulting, OR provide ‘honest engagement’. You can’t do both.
You know this in public though, right? Yeah you do.
For all those people you say they “don’t want” this, they sure are letting it happen a lot. If this was any other country, y’alls would have already complained in socmed that “you need a coup” or an “American intervention” (oh the irony).
Minnesotans didn’t.
We give these officials too much power. This is clearly not enforcement!
MURDER!
Execution!
