• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    5 days ago

    increased autocracy, further reduced freedoms

    How so? A Chinese friend I made outside China who straight up said certain previous leaders of China should be hanged generally liked Xi.

    continued oppressing Uyghurs

    No investigation, no right to speak. Why don’t you come to Xinjiang or Kazakhstan and talk to some Uhigurs? There’s literally no travel restrictions, anyone can come here.

    Hong Kong

    They were governed by a council elected by business interests and the British crown. Hong Kong is the freest its ever been under China.

    But I’ve only spent like 10 hours there, and haven’t run into any Hong Kongers outside of China so I don’t have a strong opinion on what they’re dealing with, all I know is what the US wants for them is not in their interest.

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      5 days ago

      Just so I know if my time will be well used to redact an answer, what’s your affinity with lemmy.ml, hexbear and lemmygrad?

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        I left lemmy.ml when traveling in China because its blocked by the Great Firewall, so is hb, while lemmygrad users are generally correct, I don’t think their attitude towards anarchists is productive, and sometimes I see some really bad takes from them.

        If you’re going to respond, do me a favor and base your take somewhat in reality.

        If you can’t read chinese, have never been to China, and aren’t getting your takes from anyone who has and doesn’t have a material interest in peddling propaganda, you probably shouldn’t speak on the matter.

        Btw, I should be in Xinjiang tomorrow night, and theres an older uhigur living nearby here in Kazakhstan if you had any questions you wanted me to ask.

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        What is it with lemmy.ml that I have missed? I personally just chose it by pure randomness on a list when I created an account, but I have seen it come up more times now as something negative?

        I have no clue what hexbear and lemmygrad is.

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          .ml, lemmygrad and hexbear are three Lemmy instances known for hosting mostly users with socialist viewpoints, many of them appreciating Actually Existing Socialist states. Hexbear is mostly defederated because it has a strict policy of protection of its 50%ish trans userbase against transphobia, whereas .ml is mostly federated as a major instance.

          There are frictions between non-socialists in other instances and socialists in those three instances, because politics is a complicated topic that reasonably makes people passionate and emotional.

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            4 days ago

            Thanks, that’s a good explanation. Had no clue the difference between instances was big as most is federated.

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              The explanation you got is fairly positive. The negative side (depending on your own compass) is that they have the reputation to host a lot (majority ?) of tankies, which creates tensions, with people who defend democracy for exemple. See this definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie You likely ended up on the lemmy.ml because it’s one of the major instances and it is administrated by the core developers of Lemmy, which themselves are openly defending things related to the article above.

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                Yeah, exactly. I chose it because it wasnt the biggest, and I wanted to pick a large one with a community but not the biggest, because I wanted to spread the users out on more instances.

                I had no clue there was a political agenda in picking an instance, but it makes sense.

                Thanks for explaining it in a neutral manner. I dont follow any political communities anyway, so I think I’m good.

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                  I didn’t either, but then I started being shocked by some positions I saw randomly on Lemmy that I never did on Reddit, and then I understood the pattern. I had no idea what a tankie was before coming to Lemmy.