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During yesterday’s “Winning the AI Race” summit, President Trump weighed in on the debate surrounding AI and copyright, noting that it is “not doable” for AI companies to pay for all copyrighted content used in model training. This stance, shared amidst ongoing AI copyright lawsuits, aims to keep the U.S. competitive in the global AI landscape, especially against countries like China.
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Then anything produced by AI should be free use and not able to be copyrighted.
Copyright shouldn’t exist anyways. It only exists to support monopolization of distribution.
Copyright actually was a good idea at the time, it provided protection in exchange for enablment. It used to be copyrighted works would be kept secret or secular from the public, same thing as patent/trade secrets, but the copyright framework was devised so that the public could eventually benefit from the works for the price of initial protection of the producer. Disney bastardized it to high hell in court back in the 90s and it just never recovered or adapted to the modern age.
For those unfamiliar, here is the wiki for Statute of Anne. Generally regarded as the basis/advent of copyright.
In theory it is also supposed to be able to protect small-time creators who come up with a good idea from being copied and run out of the market by megacorporations.
To use video games as an example (trademark violation aside), imagine if EA made their own Celeste 2, or whatever close equivalent they could while avoiding Celeste branding, with no involvement or permission from Maddy Thorson. They copy all of Celeste’s source code and put their legion of underpaid developers to make the shiniest, biggest budget version of Celeste imaginable, erase all of the trans allegory because they’re worried about how it might impact sales, and flood the airwaves to make it seem like it’s better than the original Celeste in every conceivable way.
Unfortunately, you’re wrong in that interpretation. When copyright was devised mega corporations weren’t exactly a thing. Copyright like patents has always been about trying to balance the benefits to society against the needs of the individual.
Copyright like patents has always been about trying to balance the benefits to society against the needs of the individual.
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Copyright has never been about balancing any kind of benefit to society.
It was invented in the 1700s and you directly benefit from the many many things it has enabled for you over the past 300 years so… No?..
You carry with you an extraordinarily propagandized view of what copyright is.
It’s pointless arguing with that douchebag, they just want to pirate or steal anything they want and want it to be legal.
I don’t agree. I stand with @[email protected] (I’m not sure we’re federated, but this guy: https://kfogel.org/kfogel) in that I think that I fundamentally believe that information wants to be free. Copyright law was built fundamentally to limit and control the distribution of information for control. Its goal was to privatize censorship.
Copyright as Disney uses it is working exactly as intended.
More on copyright:
Copyright is 300+ years old rooted in people who’d spend their lives working to publish a singular book. You’re just… Wrong? I’m not sure what else to tell you. You can make the argument that it’s been shaped that way, but you’re dismissing so much history and stand to further nothing with your stance.
You don’t know what you are talking about do you? Go watch the video.
Copyright was specifically built to protect printers, who demanded a monopoly over publication.
Not the writers or creators of those works, who made nothing from copyright, but the publishing company. It was built to protect a means of distribution.
Technically it is as long as you don’t have copyrighted characters or a human has been involved in the process.
That ok, it’s not doable for me to pay for music, movies, and video games I won’t own.
Or pay taxes.
Guys you are thinking about this all wrong, we have just been given a great loophole for the pirate bay 2.0
Then maybe AI companies aren’t doable after all. It’s not like we have the natural resources to spare anyway.
Fucking wild’ its not doable for me either.
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It’s not doable for me to need to use a subscription model for things I used to be able to own.
These companies get billions in funding. Something tells me they could handle a lot of royalty costs.
But if somehow they actually can’t, you better be damn sure we are taking the whole copyright system out – not just carving out exemptions for corporations.
I know. A guy can dream.
