Discord announced on Monday that it’s rolling out age verification on its platform globally starting next month, when it will automatically set all users’ accounts to a “teen-appropriate” experience unless they demonstrate that they’re adults.
Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels, won’t be able to speak in Discord’s livestream-like “stage” channels, and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive. They will also get warning prompts for friend requests from potentially unfamiliar users, and DMs from unfamiliar users will be automatically filtered into a separate inbox.
Direct messages and servers that are not age-restricted will continue to function normally, but users won’t be able to send messages or view content in an age-restricted server until they complete the age check process, even if it’s a server they were part of before age verification rolled out. Savannah Badalich, Discord’s global head of product policy, said in an interview with The Verge that those servers will be “obfuscated” with a black screen until the user verifies they’re an adult. Users also won’t be able to join any new age-restricted servers without verifying their age.
Badalich also says after the October data breach, Discord “immediately stopped doing any sort of age verification flows with that vendor” and is now using a different third-party vendor.
Oh thanks, it’s fixed
The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your name, the city that you live in, if you used a birth certificate or something else, any of that information.
Suure
Oh yeah it’s totally deleted from that one server! Of course all information is kept for “quality and training purposes” and to hand over to palantir and whoever is willing to pay.
Now what sort of unethical corporate greed machine would do that?
. . . All of them?
Oh. Oh dear.
“we use industry standard privacy practices”
e.g. your privacy is our payday.
I usually just roll my eyes when I see that corpospeak, but now I’m going to translate it as “payday.” Thanks!
Just like they deleted it from the last provider
And for advertising so that they can bucket you accordingly.
Gotta juice the B2B spigot for the upcoming IPO
Of course, but they also derive demographic information from all the texts, links, communities you interact with.
Now they’ll have verifiable racial characteristics to target you with customized ads that look like you. It’s definitely more effective.
It’s a horrible company that preys on youth.
Well, you need to understand, Palantir needs a library for their facial recognition software. What if those young people refused to take advantage of the smartphone biometrics? Don’t they know it is for their security??? /s
If this was true, then they would have no problem with agreeing to paying us $50 mil each in the event of a data breach, since it could never happen, right?
None of the companies pulling this shit are offering a good enough product to be worth it.
People love sharing porn in discord tho. That’s why this is happening.
No. That’s the excuse for why it’s happening.
Ok, let’s say it is. They just want to invade our privacy. Now set that aside.
On a separate topic: What’s an alternative solution for the “there’s porn on the playground” problem that discord has? They are participants in it, they are facilitators. They shouldn’t be immune. Giving platforms a pass on things like this is pernicious. Giving platforms a pass is why Elon Musk thinks he can get away with CSAM generators.
I’m sorry are we putting aside biometric infomation being aggregated across multiple platforms and assigned to browsing habits so that governments know exactly where you’re browsing at any single moment?
Are we just putting that aside???
If discord can’t handle it don’t blame me. I mean what even is this point???
I’m not putting it aside to dismiss the idea that it’s bad. I was doing so just for the sake of conversation. You’re really overreacting to conversation.
This age verification stuff is an invasion of privacy, and we should have a better answer to the claims that it is the only way to put in protection on the platform side. “Parents” is not the answer to the platform’s responsibility here as a facilitator who profits from facilitating.
Age verification systems are invasive and harm privacy AND it’s weird that we think platforms should be all ages with no serious/effective barriers. It’s weird that we just act like there is no solution, and bemoan parents.
I was quite clear about switching the topic focus.
the better solution is to ban porn from the platform. that’s it. there are some people who won’t like it, but they will find another porn platform.
Boycott the platform. No one’s gonna rescue the end user anymore. There’s no more oversight. Remove yourself from the ecosystem and encourage healthier alternatives.
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Any kind of required age verification has significant privacy and security implications. Honestly I think the best approach is the pinky promise we’ve generally had until now, where by default the platform will not display explicit content until the user actively consents and asserts that they are of legal age.
Why exactly do we need to be verifying age? Any kind of legal/government documents and agreements are already covered by purjory laws, physical deliveries and purchases are already handled by photo ID checks, and porn is of course harmful to teens/preteens but they’ve always been finding ways to access porn even before the home computer era (and honestly this would be better handled through education by schools and parents than forceful legislation)
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Is preventing teens’ access to pornography worth sacrificing the ability for every adult to have privacy online?
This is a society level value judgement that has to be made, I’m not necessarily looking for hard answers
I don’t disagree. We need better tools for this.
The problem is making sure these tools are not used as tools of the state for tracking.
Are platforms responsible for the content their users post? No. Rules for unusual situations (CSAM, terrorism, copyright, etc) have been established for probably decades by this point.
An online chat/message board is not comparable to an image generator because the company is not creating potentially harmful content.
I think it has become increasingly clear that letting platforms off the hook has been really bad for society across the world across many dimensions. We need something in the middle of zero responsibility and full responsibility.
Yet Pirate bay is…?
These are actually separate issues. TPB isn’t legally responsible for theft if someone leaks an unreleased song. But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB’s distribution of content.
But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB’s distribution of content.
Wasn’t the argument supposed to be that because they only link to torrents but don’t host the content that the torrents link to themselves they’re not a disributor just a link aggregator?
But we have established, for centuries, that platform owners are not liable for what their users publish…?
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Parents should try parenting for once instead of relying on the government to (use them as a thinly veiled excuse to) implement draconian monitoring on their populace.
Right, it’s weird that parents let kids play on platforms that have porn on them. Something needs to be done, maybe we should go after the parents instead.
Or is the answer just saying parents should do something and then do nothing? We need a clever solution that does not involve sharing proof of identity… any ideas? Banning adult content completely would work too.
Never let kids access this site, littered with porn access
Why do that when government and corporations can do it for them? It’s going to be their kids / property anyway.
Why doesn’t twitter have to do this?
Because Elon Musk loves mixing kids and porn.
Edit: it’s so fucking stupid and contradictory that this comment has upvotes and my other comments in this thread don’t.
They all say the same thing. Mixing kids and porn is weird. Discord mixes kids and porn too. Elon just enjoys it.
And he’s politically connected enough to get away with it. Discord isn’t
He likes his Twitter users how he likes his scotch.
Russian, computerized, and fake?
12 years old and mixed up with coke.
Minecraft, though…
And no, VoxelLibre is not a good replacement. They need to fix their UI first so it doesn’t look like a 2004 app
Minecraft Java is (now) a source available (I dont know if thats the right term, but new java edition versions are now completely deobfuscated.) game where anyone can either play offline or spin up their own server to play multiplayer, even with no connection to mojang’s servers. I dont think its a big concern. There’s already a mod for Java to just remove the age verification.
Also, there isnt really an alternative for a game. There are only other similiar in genre games.
I just bought keys for my tiny kids and hosted a world for us. It was no problem except for the Microsoft part I Hated that part but once set up now it’s no problem
I’ve had some difficulty with the parental controls preventing my kid from joining my server on the same network. Microsoft’s parental controls are so overly granular yet incredibly unclear in the specifics, there isn’t feature parity between the mobile app and the web interface forcing one to download their shitty app to toggle certain settings, and it seems like even their documentation authors and support are unclear on how to set it up exactly
Yeah, its on the web, but very insanely badly ux. Xbox something something… but we are playing five people on the same ip with no issue
Oh yeah I’m sure if I struggled through I’d eventually find the value to toggle, it’s just a royal pain and I don’t wanna!
Vintage Story, soon Hytale bit for bit. Also there are just mods for Minecraft to circumvent chat blocks
U can pirate Minecraft in this case just easy I think it justifies
Yeah, but you can’t play on whitelisted servers if you pirate Minecraft
Yeah true but if u wanna play with friends on own server it not problem
The day an app/service (be it Discord or anything else) asks me to upload my ID, is the day my account gets deleted.
Time for me to review Revolt Chat again to see what has updated.
Wow, apparently they change their name entirely. I am way behind
It’s Stoat now! https://stoat.chat/
I recently joined! It’s very close to Discord.
No VOIP? That’s the only reason I ever use discord, when my friends force me to so I can talk while we play games. Guess teamspeak is still king
No video call or screen share either from what I can tell, which is uhhh pretty major to day the least. That said, it’s not like I need only use one platform at a time. I’ll probably get on that and start using it and hope that they add those things in the future. But yeah, I’m not sure if I would call it close to Discord right now.
They have voice chat channels in Stoat, or are you wanting p2p calls?
No just voice channels, I’m glad they have them but it was completely missing from their marketing on the website. Just says “text channels done right” and there isn’t a single line about voice support
Edit, found a reddit post from about a month ago which is copied below. So it looks like it barely supports voice so far.
"Apparently The voice chat feature has been brought back in stoat
It only works in the desktop version though. Mobile devices you’re going to have to wait a bit longer though.
Otherwise the quality of it is really really good but you will experience a massive delay in your voice being sent through the voice medium. It’s about 800 millisecond delay even with the fastest speeds. But at least it’s something. "
Ah, I could see that being confusing.
I will say compared to discord the voice channels sound rough and I’m not sure I remember that many options to customize the experience
I’ll take rough around the edges over potential ID theft tbh
If you don’t care about audio on screenshare you could use matrix, that’s what I do.
There’s rocketchat, too, which bills itself more corporately
Anyone else not receiving the verification email? Doesn’t seem to work for me.
I think it took a long time for me the first time. They seem way smaller than Discord, so I imagine they don’t have the fastest infrastructure. Also, I signed up with a non-gmail account and their verification email did make it through eventually.
Wow! I had checked these guys out a long while ago. It seems they’ve gotten a fresh coat of paint. I should revisit it. Maybe convince my friends to switch…
Reposting my reply from another thread, just to keep people informed:
Keep in mind everyone that Stoat still doesn’t currently protect it’s users information and is centralized. It doesn’t use encryption but it is very seamless. You can host your own Stoat instance but it doesn’t communicate with the main one. The devs have said they plan to add more security features in the future yet still don’t make it a priority. The host of Stoat should be able to see everyone’s messages, including in DM’s, due to the lack of E2E encryption. Once they add more security features I imagine they will be much more popular in general.
Do you have any sources to share regarding their security posture? https://openalternative.co/stoat says it’s “privacy oriented”, GDPR compliant, “secure and confidential”, etc.
GitHub reply from a Stoat Dev 2025: https://github.com/orgs/stoatchat/discussions/951
I’ve also personally spoken with Stoat community members who were more educated about the project than me. As well as a friend who is very involved in tech projects
It’s dead. The development has been as fraught as Tox and it has no feature parity. Not sure it’s worth forking.
Right now your best options are jitsi for video or good old mumble for voice and simplex or matrix for text chat.
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Tired of so many discussions being locked away in Discord, so hopefully they ramp this up and require identification to do anything so everyone will move to a more open platform.
Discord and github are the two platforms barely anyone dares to speak about. The Foss community barely mentions the usage of such platforms, despite nearly all of projects use discord as the support line.
It is really such a shame, since those projects make a significant contribution to open source software in one area. but just shits itself in the other.
What discussions happen on discord? I’m late 20s and play video games regularly and I have never used it. Thought it was where people streamed themselves playing video games or selling bathwater or whatever. Back in the day my home boys and I used to chat on teamspeak while gaming, but who has time for that shit anymore? My gaming is almost all single player or with the wifey 3 feet to my left lol.
Discord leaked my email. How do I know it was Discord? Because that email address was specifically for Discord. Anyways, now that email is full of spam. Anyways anyways, no way I am letting them leak my face
Time to use generative AI to make a fake picture… Might as well pollute their database if they make these demands.
No like fake generated ID. This is decent for face scans tho
You can use this site which was made as a protest against the age verification in the UK.
This doesn’t work for age verification and is a relatively small pool of photos
You can use this site which was made as a protest against the age verification in the UK.
I been hearing the Dr.Breen model in Gmod is the gold standard because you can pose the face.
Could be decent money for a small time 3d modeling guy to make a huge assortment of fake faces with animations
Most of the age verification things I’ve seen are wise to that and require a video camera, not a still one.
Put a tablet in front of the camera playing an AI video?
Or use a virtual camera with a preset video
The German
passportID card (and I’m sure many others) has a NFC chip in it and you can use it with an open source app to securely prove your identity online. In cases like this, the only information pulled from your ID would be “over 18” or “not over 18”.It’s one of the few things my government did right in the digital space. And yet almost nobody in the private sector uses this. I’m tired of being asked to upload a photo of my ID for age verification.
So, they WANT to render themselves obsolete?
I really hope they do. When a support forum says “join us on discord” I immediately nope the fuck out. I have never used discord and I don’t plan on it.
Even as a discord user, support forums, wikis, and QAs should not be done in discord. Their search feature is utter ass, and without tabs navigating forums is utter hell
Even their forum-esque feature really sucks. You can’t easily navigate within it, and it’s an endlessly scrolling feed rather than a paginated one, so good luck if you need access to a specific portion of a particularly long thread.
I’ve been waiting for Discord to die for years now.
I HATE discord. It’s way too complicated. The rules within chats are ridiculous.
And it’s obscure, why use a chat like a forum? Why keep knowledge there? It’s not even encrypted so it’s insecure and blinded from the regular internet.
Sorry but this is like saying the Internet is too complicated because different forums have different rules
No… It’s not?
More like they are being forced to by Governments who are pushing kid safety as a way to achieve their final goal which is a drivers license to use the Internet.
What governments? The US government isn’t making them do it.
The US government isn’t making them do it.
The Feds aren’t making them do it, but plenty of states are working on it.
Yeah, asshole states.
Shit holes Jesus land red states
Dunno why this is worldwide, then. Why should I have to comply with what some states in the US want when I’m not even in the same country, and my country has none of these age verification laws? Whole world shouldn’t have to give up their privacy just because Tennessee said so.
Because Discord wants your data, any excuse they give is just a rationalization to get it.
Probably because it’s easier than making EULA for every state and county
The Heritage Foundation and New World Order want to make sure there is a real life identity tied to discord since it is being looked at as a probable collaboration source for resistance. Every other social platform like Meta already does this and I can see Reddit requiring this next.
It’s to track the future dissidents once the winter of discontent arrives. It’s why China requires a real life ID sign in for every single site and every single file hosting site there
UK, AUS to name a few, but many others are doing this, and its only a matter of time before the US gets in on the action.
The US is busy violating people’s rights and executing civil dissidents. They’ll get to it when they grow bored of terrorizing everyone.
The US has been terrorizing people for the entirety of its existence. Yet it still finds time for hobbies.
European Union, entirely. The law is in process.
But you can’t have a provider abo until you’re of legal age…
They are choosing this over banning porn on their platform.
Fuck discord. Hope some people leave over this.
To quote general Grevious:
“Time to abandon ship”
There’s plenty of other options out there. Discord has been enshitifying for a while now, so I don’t mind dropping it
The problem is there isn’t plenty of other options.
Discord is one of those services independent web folk have been after a replacement for for years.
For an exact 1:1 replacement? Yeah, I do agree about that. If anyone looking for options doesn’t mind making some compromises it opens the doors quite a bit.
I shared in another reply a link to some alternatives. Guilded seems to be the closest to a 1:1 replacement for now.
My personal concern is having to repeat this again if the next proprietary platform becomes too big. My friend group has gone through google hangouts (it was a different time lol), the curse client, which became a Twitch product eventually and then Discord.
I’m at the point where I’m considering going back to web forums and things like teamspeak/ventrillo.
Roblox is asking for the same thing to use chat in-game, but they split people in age groups (9-12, 18-20…), and you can only talk to players in your age group.
Oof. That’s news to me. I’m seeing some stuff about Stoat pop up. Guess that’s what I’ll look into next
Let me know if you get it working with voice channels, tried tonight, no luck, couldn’t make voice channels at all. For text it’s fine I guess but that’s not enough.
Will do. I need to set aside some time to see about it working with most, if not all my devices and go from there.
I did see someone else mention elsewhere that it is possible, but I don’t remember the source.
There’s also Matrix if you don’t mind tinkering around a bit too as another option.
ya I’m setting up matrix with cloudflare tunnels now, first time using cloudflare tunnels, pretty cool. I’m not thrilled at having to depend on a third party service to connect to my own stuff, but it’s better than my home IP being public.
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What’s the best alternative in your view?
I’m going to try self hosting https://stoat.chat/ not sure it has screen sharing yet, but apparently they just re-wrote all their voice/video stuff, so it should be available soon.
It’s also worth noting, you don’t need to self host. You can sign up for their hosted instance too. https://stoat.chat/login
Of course, if you want to self host that’s great too.
I’m in the UK though, so they imply they may (already or in teh future) need to verify my age anyway.
They don’t seem to have a great out of box experience currently, will require some more poking around.
I like element honestly, it has everything I need. Element call as a recent implementation is nice for that sort of thing. It also supports screen sharing
I tried tonight, pretty broken, couldn’t create voice channels at all
Tonight I’ve tried a bunch of options
revolt/stoat, and I couldn’t make voice channels at all. If I could and it worked fine probably would have used that immediately
spacebar chat, got the server running just fine, no idea which UI to use, and when I tried the options I couldn’t connect to the server and it was really clunky
setup team speak 6, immediately wanted me to create an account on their servers, rm -rf
setup mumble - might actually work, but looks like ass, friends are gonna be skeptical
setting up full blown matrix now I guess.
For a potential 1:1 Discord alternative? The one that has stood out to me is Guilded. I started looking at alternatives last year when talk about this was starting to float around and forgot about it.
Here’s a recent article with alternatives that I found in a quick search. Don’t agree with all of them personally, but I’m not the target audience for some of them.
Guilded was great. Too bad it’s dead. 😕
Yeah, I just learned about that. Really unfortunate. Seems like Stoat is the next option
Honestly, what was wrong with Ventrillo for voice and literally any forum software for everything else?
What about for video screen sharing?
Not something that has ever come up for me, personally. So I don’t have an answer for that one I guess, if that’s something that’s important to you.
I really need to watch the prequels again
Dewit
Yeah, except it’s not like you get to choose. If you are on the Discord server for rock climbing in your country, you can leave the community, but you don’t have “other options”.
It’s not like the question is “what platform do I want to use for X?”. The question is “The X community uses Discord, do I want to be in it or not?” And of course you can choose to not join, but you don’t have an option to choose another app.
I definitely get what you’re saying on that. Leaving behind communities that you’re a part of, potentially for years or longer, is not appealing.
The sad reality is that is where each individual person will have to weigh their options and beliefs.
For me personally, I’m already down to just a few personal communities on Discord and for the one that I run, I will be migrating to either something like Stoat, Matrix or even a good old fashioned web forum. This all stems from not trusting Discord with my personal information, which works for me. Obviously not a one size fits all situation.
It would be nice to see Discord realize that they’re making a huge mistake and backtrack the decision, but I don’t see that happening.
Perhaps this will lead to communities migrating to web forums down the road? Only time will tell.
Do they seriously expect discord moderators’ faces to fit into a picture not taken from like 15m?
Hey!
Fisheye lenses do exist
Yes, unless it’s a bot. Discord ‘thinks’ mods are normal homo sapiens
ill take my leave asap then, 10 years has been a pretty good sample of what capitalism does to a platform
how is a government requirement for age verification forcing a company to implement a non profitable change the fault of capitalism? I guess the 10 years have been a good sample of what capitalism does to a platform. Discord saw a problem and used VC capital to build one of the most well engineered platforms on the market with hundreds of millions of free users and many happy to pay to support it.
If you don’t think this is all a pretense to collect more data and sell it… All the way up to the govt enforcing these rules lmao
wow this is just what they need to know who you are… the final piece of the puzzle. You dont think discord can accurately identify most of its users already. They have email, IP, device, port scans of the network, all the people they interact with, contact list scans, social media and online account linking. This only affects a small subset of users and doesnt even go to discord as its done through a 3rd party service.
“They already have your data bro, it’s fine just let them scan your face too bro, it’s all a third party really bro trust them.”
“Its all a conspiracy man, all the way up to the government man, all this is being done to collect more data having a picture of someones face is so valuable”. You do not live in reality and there is no logic to your story. Discord is not accessing this photo so they have nothing to sell. Discord gains nothing and suffers reputational harm for this change. Then the “nefarious” 3rd party age verification company who supposedly stands to benefit the most out of all this. There is fuck all money to be made as an ID verification service, they are not legally able to sell the data and will most likely be automated out of existence in the next few years. Lastly why the fuck would the government suffer reputational harm to do all this to access your ID, you may not be aware but they actually already have your id and sensitive information about you. You werent private on discord before this change and wont be after. Unless you’ve taken extraordinary security measures, Discord should be treated as a public forum.
Its not a change im happy about but its the way legislation is going around the world and it makes sense discord would comply. At the end of the day I operate on the internet under my personal info, i use a cc with my name, i use my personal phone number, i use my email. Im under no illusion that im not identifiable. If thats a red line for you then either dont access nsfw content or dont use discord you dont have to make up a crazy conspiracy to explain the actions.
Idk if youve been living under a rock, but we have a facists government in power with direct ties to our tech oligarchs who have literally said they’re trying to harvest everyone’s data.
Its not a conspiracy, its just fact.
Look into Peter Thiel and Palantir, look into Epstein and his ties with Trump and the tech broligarchs, look into Cambridge Analytica and Meta, its really not difficult to see how all of this is coalescing to harvest all your data and use it for whatever they want across a gigantic database and while you might think it’s already hopeless that doesn’t mean you should make it even easier for them to do so.
Palantir already has full access to the governments data which includes your ID. They dont need to get it via discord changing the way it handles age verification.
the ID isn’t a direct cause. i just mention capitalism because most of the rest of the cause for me leaving is the enshittification. this is just the straw that broke the camels back like how reddit killing the app api is what pushed me off that platform
It absolutely is a direct cause.
These ID verification companies have been lobbying governments to mandate this so they can earn $$$$
good point, wasn’t my original intent but yeah lol
Thats true but ID companies are not lobbying or making changes on a scale that matters. This change isnt going through because an id company lobbied the government. Its actually a popular position with the constituents of the democracy. Its supported by many different interest groups for various reasons good and bad. To simplify it down to “id companies lobbying the government to earn money” is in my opinion intentionally misleading.
I think you underestimate how much lobbying is happening by these firms. It’s a 10s of billions of dollars industry, and it’s up and coming hence why it’s suddenly starting to happen everywhere. It’s not happening because its suddenly a good idea all over the world.
Huge money involved.
source? I completely disagree that this is a result of extreme amounts of lobbying money being injected into politics. The issue is very very popular with the average parent and thats what politicians are reacting to.
While this might not all be explicit lobby, they are being lobbied, and there’s an exceptional amount of money being put into it in many ways. And if you don’t think millions and millions of dollars are going into things like SPAC’s to support candidates who will support it via side conversations, or other campaign finance tricks around the world then you just don’t know how things work in the US.
Here’s an example of Yoti spending money supporting the Texas laws.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-1122/332630/20241122163435761_23-1122 Amicus Brief.pdf
Yoti In response to COPPA
https://downloads.regulations.gov/FTC-2024-0003-0192/attachment_1.pdf
You really think they spend all that time writing this up and they aren’t having side conversations or nudge nudge wink wink deals going on? The US has a supreme court justice Clarence Thomas blatantly taking money from people and nothing happens.
This is a world wide campaign to support it by these companies who built the tools. There’s is an official industry lobby group as well https://avpassociation.com/
Edit: This is actual lobby record relating to kids online saftey act. https://lda.senate.gov/filings/public/filing/edf57428-13bb-4f91-89af-137bbe898e91/print/
Edit: Here’s Onfido (now Entrust) an explicit lobby: https://lda.senate.gov/filings/public/filing/251cf218-5db4-49bd-8b12-cf3cfa950d15/print/
Edit: Onfido lobbying again in EU over many years: https://www.lobbyfacts.eu/datacard/onfido?rid=193458043836-76&sid=157476
Edit: This is ID.me lobbying the US government, getting hang of the search (which isn’t great) which is millions of dollars in identify verification lobbying. And just think of how much money is being spent behind the money they legally disclosed. Lots.
Palantir
you mean the company that already has full access to government data?
Yes. It’s got immense influence in government policy.
You could argue that in a general sense government regulation goes against unfettered capitalism. Though in this age where personal information is a commodity, some might say this is being used as a pretense.
I think the argument that this is done to collect more personal info is stupid.
Did you miss the part where the change is global? It also applies where the government hasn’t required it.
how does that change anything?
This is coming from socialdemocrat countries like Spain, State interventionism at its finest.
So, capitalist countries? You do understand that “social democracy” is still a form of capitalism, right?
Why are you so hostile? Read what I said and then read your reply and see if I am trying to argue against you or simply adding information to what you said.
Anyway this is what replying against your original comment looks like: you are blaming an economy system of political (parties) policies. The more socialist governments turns the more control government have over everything (including economic systems), the more, well, controlling the State becomes. Democracy doesn’t need to be capitalist, and social-democracy is just a political system.
“Socialism is when government do things”
Sure thing bud. You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Socialism has nothing to do with what is being talked about. I’m hostile cause I’m tired of uneducated idiots like you spreading your ignorance.
“Capistalism is when bad” that’s your whole argument, with adding disrespect and lack of education.
I hate discord but they are just implementing what the EU will force every single “social network” to do.
Welp that sucks time to find a new platform
Stoat it is then.
keep forgetting they renamed revolt to stoat. dumb lawsuit.
And worse choice of new name.
Wtf you talking about. Stoats are adorable.
They are but getting a normie friend to join a service called Stoat feels like a non-starter. Revolt/Matrix/Element/Signal are more doable.
try getting them to use a fediverse instance named moist
… I don’t need another domain. I don’t need another domain. I do NOT need another domain…
To some people it might be a positive
That makes zero sense.
Brand name perception matters a lot 🫤 I wish it didn’t, but it does.
And stoats is as awesome as they get as they said
It makes perfect sense. Names are incredibly important to widespread adoption. As are pleasing colors.
Many people don’t know what a Stoat is, or that it’s an animal. A meaningless nonsense word (In the mind of a normie) will not drive them to use it.
So your argument is that people are stupid so they should change the name. That’s not very compelling imo. Most tech names are nonsense to average person, yet they succeeded just fine.
I miss when Element was called Riot.IM, also a stupid lawsuit that never happened but they changed the name to avoid a lawsuit anyway.
Are your friends adults?
I love watching peeps play this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX5iFFCwd5w
Although this change for Discord is gonna suck.
This game is such a fucking fun romp.
I like that it has a “secret” ending that if you actually wait around in the waiting room instead of leaving, eventually the Mayor will be ready to see you. I think it’s about 15 minutes.
I’ve watched so many streamers play it that idk if I’d wanna play it myself, but that I didn’t know! I love how much love they put into the game as a whole. Never fails to get me a bunch of hearty laughs…
it just reminds me of the old fascist reddit clones, like voat or throat or whatever
they should have renamed it quokkachat
Eh, the more you say it, the more normal it’ll sound. Stoat. Like oat. Or like stoked.
“Goo Gewl” isn’t exactly a good name…
It was a lawsuit?
Learned something new today.
Do they have voice chat?
You can create text or voice channels! ( I haven’t tried voice chat yet though.)
You can search for existing servers or create your own server by signing up for the official instance: https://stoat.chat/login
Or self host your own. The official instance does seem a little slow.
Do they offer encryption? Even if not, it’s still better than discord.
No they don’t. Check out my other reply.
TLDR, they plan to but haven’t yet. But currently they (the owners of the centralized instance) have the ability to read other people’s chats due to the lack of E2E encryption
Reference to Inscryption?
Ok, rare to see such an explicit kind of Great Filter / Idiot Test play out at scale, but here we go!
Anybody who is still using Discord after it requires you to personally directly link your drivers liscense or w/e to it, well, they’re fine with every government apparatus of any kind knowing everything they say and do on Discord.
Good luck to those glorious morons, truly, good luck.
You are going to need it.
Super, duper hope you’re not queer or trans or neurodivergent.
… you… think the 23 concentration camps currently being built by ICE / FEMA are … only for migrants?
Brown people?
Well you trust the current fascist regime a lot more than I do.
First they came for…
First they actually came for the trans people, but the poem author didn’t care to notice because he was a Catholic Priest.
But ya know. Its like that again.
Here in the UK Discord has been requiring this for a while already. I never did the verification, because I don’t access any NSFW Discord servers anyway. Unless you use Discord for porn (or speak on “stages”, whatever they are), there is no reason to do the verification.
Well theres also the near certainty that they’re reading everyones messages with some kind of LLM agent that is their ‘system that runs in the background’ that attempts to auto-determine if you are a kid or not.
Thats regardless of whether or not you also give them your ID or face.
And, if you have connected Discord to any other apps? Other apps that you maybe pay for things with? Or you pay for Nitro?
They know who you are.
Yeah absolutely, Discord is terrible for privacy either way. What I’m saying is that the verification “requirement” is not actually required for what I would presume the majority of people use Discord for.
I have not used Discord in years, but I guess it would depend on what exactly consitutes NSFW chat or content.
Like… how much just current modern news around Esptein can be discussed on a non NSFW rated discord community?
I genuienly don’t know.
