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A few months ago, we were at a supermarket with my mom, buying some stuff.
My mom needed an antiperspirant. When she was about to grab a black one, I heard a guy “helpfully” telling her that she was grabbing one “For Men™”, that the ones “For Women™” were the pink ones.
I immediately looked at the guy like “lol what, who asked”.
(My mom uses “men’s” antiperspirants because she doesn’t care about that, and they are usually cheaper than “women’s”)
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Cool sport rush smells like mint. The bottle is black and the sticker has a wave of some sorts printed on it(the added surfer is optional). The gel is blue if its a fancier brand.
You buy it because you are doing sports but manly and sweat really manly. Only a cool sport rush can help against that. Its pretty obvious idk
edit: the bottle can be dark blue with silver applications on the sticker too! ngl this shit is more complex than i thought!
I’ve seen shaving cream in “sports edition” before. Can you explain that? Does it shave faster?
Uuuh,
probably because it isnt really that manly to shave anything but your face. But if its done for sports its even manlier.
dont @ me. I dont make the rules.
It’s for racing cyclists. There’s nothing more aero than legs and face shaved with sports shaving cream.
And regular shaving cream just won’t do the trick.
Visually you may not notice the difference, but the air flowing around you at 200m/s as you cycle up mnt Thor will.
Make sure that your micro plastic shower puff is blue, black, or silver.
Wouldn’t want your rubber ducky collection think you were gay.
Are you saying multiple brands use Cool Sport Rush?
Femininity is nouns (due to objectification), masculinity is verbs (due to the valorisation of action)
That’s a really good way to summarise the problem actually.
Verbing weirds languages, but it’s apparently very masculining \s
It’s still better than nominalization.
Not true, naval supremacy is a noun.
I’m a man and my deodorants are either lemon or sage.
Just stop buying shit.
I mean, I love lemon, but I wouldn’t rub one on my armpits…
Pfft. Coward.
I washed my balls in 24% acetic acid once.
They did get clean, in the sense that it burned the outermost layer of skin right off, yeah so but just letting you all know not to do that.
Wasn’t really planning on it, but thanks for the heads up.
You’re welcome!
TIL to avoid washing my balls with concentrated vinegar.
It seemed like a reasonable thing to do at the time.
Why not?
My deodorant is called “pungent sweat”.
Just stop buying shit.
I’m a roasted chicken cooking in the sun and my deodorants are either olive oil or a sweet kiss from Nonna.
Just stop buying shit. Also, if you didn’t grow those lemons and sage yourself, you’re part of the problem because you also could stop buying shit.
Are you growing those olives and producing the olive oil or…
yes, my Nonna actually gave me an olive oil gland so I could squeeze out my own
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Lemon is an excellent body smell. Sage is toxic to dogs and perhaps cats fyi.
My favorite concept is Unscented.
I’ve found a few locally made perfume of unscented. It’s kind of amazing to me. It smells like “nothing” and “existing” as a scent concept.
Then there’s a French fragrance of smelling like after sex. Reportedly it smells like, well, after sex. Sweaty, carnal.
How tf would we know if something smells like after sex. That sounds like it smells awful, unless you are well, horny.
Is there even an “after sex” smell that isn’t just regular sweaty smell?
Yeah, I gotta say, there is definitely an ‘after sex’ smell. I’ve cleaned up many a place, and it is obvious when folks have been humping. There’s a distinct difference between a gym’s sweaty smell and a bedroom/hotel room sweaty smell.
Sweat plus the scent of sexual fluids.
That reminds me of how the original Febreeze was an odor remover that didn’t smell like anything. It wasn’t very popular, so they started adding scents to them.
That’s not entirely true. We can also get smells named after types of wood, metal, or alcohol.
Carbon Jungle
Yeah that’s where my head went at lol, we get “fancy wood” scent.
As a woman, woody scents are awesome. Honestly I find it really silly how we’ve managed to gender entire categories of scent like this. Like, hormonal sex absolutely does wildly change our scent, but not in a way that makes flowery scents mix poorly with man stink or woody scents with woman stink. Hell, I personally love the mix of a musky woody scent and woman stink. And a man oughta be able to feel confident smelling like a bouquet if he wants.
Believe me, as a gay man, I am confident with the bouquet smell.
I hate the fact that most (but not all fragrances) are shoehorned into male/female categories Its a smell! It doesn’t have genitalia, if you love it wear it And as a fragrance nerd I have a lot of supposedly ‘masculine’ scents full of woods, spices, booze etc A (male) truck driver mentioned that he loved wearing Chanel no5 on one of the fragrance sites which I think is fantastic! A man comfortable with himself and wearing what he loves
Copper Bourbon cedar is my favorite
True or not… cant we get some outrage at the (gestures broadly) injustice?
I’d be more outraged if I used the stuff. I use scentless or when it comes to soaps I don’t buy the men’s scents. I’ll smell like vanilla after my shower if I want to!
Heavily scented shampoo, shower gel etc. is annoying anyway. I’d rather use some kind of perfume/cologne/etc. separately. Perfume is its own can of worms, though …
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Perfumes are very often made from incredibly stinky stuff that is proccesed and heavily diluted.
Ambergris used to be one of the most valuable ingredients in parfums, its formed in the intestines of sperm whales which they vomit. Fresh it smells like literal shit and sea. But after a long time drying in the sun it develops a more complex earthy smell.
Castoreum is literally the anal glands of beavers. Civet Is from glands near the genitals of Civet cats. Both are incredibly foul initially but heavily diluted into sm that smells nice and complex for humans.
Ambergis is still really valuable, but not for it’s own scent. They use it in all perfumes, or colognes, to affix the smell onto your skin so it doesn’t just evaporate away as those volatile oils will do. Some people have found 250k dollars in ambergis I’ve heard, just floating in the ocean, it’s the beaks of giant squid that sperm whales battle in the deep, they don’t digest and their intestinal systems form this ambergis around it to protect themselves from getting cut on their tract or whatever. Then they expel it eventually and it floats.
Necrophagia for Men
Red Wiggler by Nightcrawler
Rich, dark, earthy undertones, hint of musk mid note, and top with green, peppery cabbage
Perfume is great, take the time to craft your own, it’s never been easier. May I also suggest you do it for yourself rather than some perceived effect on others. I’ve had complements, and it starts an interesting conversation, but IDGAF mostly, it’s for me, I have to live with it, so I might as well enjoy it.
I also enjoy the process of crafting it, like the cat says, “it’s a little different every time”. Beats the hell out of some off the shelf deodorant or whatever, costs a little more (surprisingly little more, start with the cheap stuff), but amortized over time, building a scent library (essential oils) pays off big time in personal enjoyment, at least for me.
I would love to hear about what ingredients / components? / stuff you use to make the perfume.
I just got a bunch of oils and chose what I liked, no need to over complicate it. I had a friend who was a ‘nose’ and made scents for companies like hotels with croissant smell in the aircon so people would get room service, mildly evil, but it got me thinking, can’t be that hard. I don’t have hyperosmosia, but I know what I like, and I’ve found what makes me happy, and it does. It’s an entire sensory playground, just dive in with whatever you already like and keep trying new things (said friend had a shitload of scents, got me started). To say use this or that would be to do you a disservice, find what you like. Will say coffee beans are a good way to cleanse the nose so you can smell things anew in a reasonably short time (sensitization is real). Think that’ll do for now, circle back if you explore, but I’m no expert, just a happy amateur. If you’re a reader, check out Perfume by Patrick Suskind. ETA: bit dark, but does an interesting job of writing with smell as the primary sense, unsurprisingly the movie fails to achieve that,
Nobody is stopping men from smelling line vanilla or lavender.
I smell almost as fruity as I am. Not all of us smell like sandalwood.
Who says some of us don’t?
That’s like saying “Nobody is stopping men from wearing dresses”. You probably won’t get arrested for it, but there are definitely social pressures that strongly discourage it.
Nah, you could walk around smelling like vanilla or citrus and still smell masculine.
my preferred cologne has main notes of lavendar and black pepper.
I recently bought a new bottle of cologne. Though i didn’t realize until i brought it home that the scent sounds more like an intersection where one might find a strip club and it smells like how one of the managers at said strip club might smell.
The scent: Cypress & Grapevine
I was at the grocery store with my brother in law and saw some guys girlfriend giving him shit over the men’s scents for body wash.
“Men’s stuff all smells like wood. Why?!”
Without skipping a beat, I ran over, picked up a bottle and said “whoa, I want to smell like wood”
Girlfriend glared daggers at me, as apparently I had just diffused the debate of the century, while her boyfriend was giving me thumbs up and smiling.
For the rest of the day, my brother in law and I would respond to everything with “smells like wood”
wood smells good tho
The ancient Egyptians used sandalwood to produce perfume oils. Smelling like wood isn’t ever going out of style.
Its annoying that every mans product is “whiskey barrel” or “bourbon wood” or whatever, yet smells NOTHING like whiskey. Its just a word used to describe generic “guy scents” so they dont have to call it ‘bergamot lavender neroli allspice’.
That’s a feature not a bug. The goal is to smell woodsy like the barrel, not like an alcoholic.
It doesnt even smell like the barrell…i have on my shelf right right now several fragrances with “whiskey” in the name. Granted, I like all of them, they are good smells, but they smell nothing like aged oak, scorched aged oak, or other whiskey-adjacent things.
‘Autumn Breeze’ probably has a different vibe if you happen to live down wind from the municipal dump.
“Brown Fog”
Viktor&Rolf Spicebomb is a great autumn scent if you’re looking for a pumpkin spice esque masculine scent.
When it is a real thing is always like Tobacco, Bourbon, leather, or some kind of burnt wood.
Ah, I see you frequent the “for men” candle section at Bath and Body Works
The bourbon scent just smells like charred vanilla and tastes like shit.
Doesn’t even get you drunk.
I want to smell.like delicious fruit and sweet things, not like I just got out of Bear Night at Charlie’s. Now I did just get out of Bear Night at Charlie’s but thats not the point.
You would not like Tuscon Leather by Tom Ford. Though some say it smells like cocaine which may make it more appealing.
If we’re gonna have “guy scented” stuff, can we at least do “guy stuff” stuff smells I actually enjoy.
Campfire. Burnt gunpowder. Sawdust. Sizzling Steaks.
Why do we get locker room and sports bar?
Options are tree, cold tree, beach tree, and mystery menthol.
It’s often dumb too, there is nothing denoting plant smells as to one gender. The smell of flowers, of herbs, is not something one sex appreciates more than another.
Only in the modern era with the advent of drugs and the destruction of small farmers and even most vegetable and herb gardens, with 99 percent of produce coming from factory farms, has it been seen as weak and womanly for men to use herbal medicines, and to appreciate flowers and herbs and the like.
For thousands of years we used plants for medicine, and now it’s seen as womanly, and of course the drug companies have campaigned to remove our rights to do it completely, for our own protection. We could hurt ourselves, leave it to the trained professionals that operate on the rules government stipulates. As if we could all get medical coverage and drug coverage in this medical hellscape even if we did surrender our rights to treat ourselves.
I don’t think I should have to get a permission slip from a doctor to do things all generations prior to the last few have.
What a wild pivot from “flowers are for all genders” to 'bring back homeopathic medicine, I don’t need no stinking doctors telling me what plants I should rub on my wounds!" lmao
Edit: sorry for conflating homeopathic and herbal medicine, they was dumb of me. I was just trying to point out what I though was a funny swing from one topic to another pretty unrelated topic
Herbal medicine is how we created aspirin, and is a mix of actually effective things that have become medicine over time and placebos. It generally has positive outcomes.
Homeopathic ‘medicine’ is magic water that heals with vibrations. It is 100% bullshit.
Nicolas Culpeper wrote his Complete Herbal in the mid 17th century, and I think I’m right in saying it’s never been out of print. It’s a great read - if you ever imagined travelling back in time to his day, this book would put you right off. It’s full of remedies for foul ulcers, bloody flux and plague sores.
Herbal medicine, to be free to use plants for medicine as we see fit as adults, and not need a permission slip from a doctor.
Homeopathic medicine is something different.
And doctors won’t tell you anything on using plants because they can only prescribe things that have passed clinical trials and no one will pay billions of dollars to do that for a plant that they can’t patent. In europe and elsewhere they do prescribe some plants but not here in the US.
Maybe you should learn what you are talking about before taking a position condemning it.
Where do you live that you need permission from a doctor to take herbal medicine? You can go pick some flowers and brew a tea any time you want. Every drug store in my country has a whole section of herbal remedies.
Besides, I’ve had two psychs support my use of ashawaghanda, omega-3s and psilocybin mushrooms. One even gave me recommendations on where to get the good shit. However, I stopped doing both when I found a new anti-depressant more consistently effective, where continuing using products that effect the same brain chemicals would have bad side effects.
No, they can’t legally prescribe it, but they can advise me on it, just like they can’t prescribe excercise but they still tell me about good places to hike.
Naturopaths, nutritionists and dieticians are a thing, too. GPs just don’t have that specific training, though nutrition is becoming more integrated into medicine.
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