As an American, I don’t think my government needs any help defending itself in its quest to create another smoldering husk of a middle eastern terror state that hates us more now than they did before we bombed them back to the stone ages.
Keir Starmer has demanded that the Iranian regime ends retaliatory strikes on neighbours in the Middle East in response to a pre-emptive attack by the US and Israel
nigga what
I think he’s talking about strikes on Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and UAE.
UK condemned the US/Israeli strikes on Iran.
The strikes are on American bases used to attack Iran, they aren’t on the gulf countries themselves, no matter how you or the leaders try to twist it.
The only danger to civilians has come directly from falling debris from not letting the missiles hit their intended targets. The US/UK/gulf militaries are not defending civilians, they are protecting American bases.
Meanwhile Israel directly bombed an elementary school on a school day in Iran and killed over 50 children.
The UK should condemn Israel, not Iran for defending itself after a surprise attack in the middle of peace talks, or “preemptive” as they like to call it.
Does that explain the civilian who died in Dubai?
The UK should condemn Israel
Pretty sure they already did
Does that explain the civilian who died in Dubai?
Yes, quite literally. No civilians were targeted in the gulf, only American military.
"The UAE defense ministry said most of the missiles and drones were intercepted but at Abu Dhabi’s Zayed International Airport officials said at least one person was killed and seven wounded in an “incident.”
Earlier, falling debris killed a Pakistani civilian in Abu Dhabi, the United Arab Emirates’ capital, officials said."
https://share.google/yol7wqbBOR1j0OCBB
The only threat to civilians is the falling debris from intercepting the missiles. We are “collateral damage” they are happy to incur to install a US puppet in Iran, the priority is to defend the war machine.
Pretty sure they already did
This is the second time in this thread you go just assert a falsehood with your guess and are satisfied with that, anything to defend and justify the war.
No, they didn’t condemn Israel, they only condemned Iran in this war that was forced upon them. And worse, now Britain to let US use bases to strike Iran.
Congrats, continue pushing for the slaughter of Iranians while insisting you care about civilians.
Now I know why its called The Onion
The joke is the layers of sarcasm
“preemptive regime change strike” by itself is already making my head spin lol
A: “Today I saw some psychopaths bombing the shit out of some kids…”
B: “So, did you do anything to help??”
A: “Sure I did! You should have seen how we destroyed those kids…”It’s not defence when you’re on the side that attacked, Starmer, you worm.
In what way are we on the US’s side?
By defending US military bases?
I’m pretty sure you haven’t read the article.
Israel/US attacked Iran. Iran responded by attacking Israel and US bases in the gulf used to attack Iran. UK is using their fighter jets to shoot down drones headed to US bases in the gulf. UK condemns Iran for attacking gulf.
You follow that?
Ok, so what other countries have Iran attacked that have no involvement. I love how you missed out this important fact to push your narrative.
So Israel and the US attacked Iran. Iran then fired back, the UK now is dogpiling Iran because they are firing back?
“Don’t defend yourself! Just lie back and let it happen.”
Not everything is defending yourself. Revenge killing civilians doesn’t suddenly become ok because your civilians died. Military bases are fair game, but it seems more than that is happening…
Revenge killing civilians doesn’t suddenly become ok because your civilians died.
I think a lot of people missed this memo over the last few years or even became absolutely unhinged when it has been pointed out.
I think a lot of people straight disagree, sadly.
uk crawled all the way inside trumps diaper quite a while back, did you not notice that ?
That is a disgusting image. As an Anglophile I am sad as fuck at the state of England.
What am I missing here? The UK is just saying to Iran don’t fire missiles at countries that haven’t been involved in firing missiles at you.
That’s sensible.
They’re attacking valid US military bases in said countries. Are you that oblivious or just running Zionist propaganda on purpose?
Yes, and how did the UK defend this bases that were hit?
Logic?
Fuck me, this response genuinely makes me feel less safe in the UK. What the fuck does the orange paedophile have to do before this utter prick stops siding with him.
Israeli military bombs another school (wtf is their hard on for schools in general. They either want to kill them or fiddle with them)
Trump (the biggest terrorist in the world at the minute) declares that he wants to take out the terrorists.
And the UK joins in. On their side.
Fuck off.
wtf is their hard on for schools in general
Zionists are cruel on purpose because their intention is to generate widespread hatred of Judaism in the region, to justify internally that “we’re only invading them because they’re antisemitic and dangerous to us”.
Provokation and emotional response.
In my mind that would be the main reason why. An sane population wouldn’t stand for their children to get killed and you do nothing. It forces your opponent into action and you can exploit that action.
With some infrastructure and certain targets a response can be delayed. Mass civilian/children casualties mean an immediate retaliation is in order or your population revolts to make one happen.
You see it in Palestine; people with nothing to lose become beligerant. You kill their kids they attack viciously. Much easier to attempt to justify fighting a “vicious rabbid opponent” than a defense less peaceful one. However, if they go the opposite end and attempt peace and calm, they are easy to mow down
Makes sense.
The actual act of what they did wouldn’t even register with them.
Yup, this is seriously heading towards a World War.
That’s an insane claim. Nobody will help Iran. Iran has no real friends, not even Russia.
That’s not how the world works. You could’ve just said “the current non-Western-aligned regime is not valuable enough to salvage by other non-Western-aligned countries” or that “the cost-benefit analysis makes no sense”. Just saying.
WTF? NO!
While that may be somewhat true for instance for China, Russia is borderline bankrupt both economically and politically. Same as Iran.It’s not a matter of cost benefit, when you simply don’t have any resources to spare.
And secondly, I very much doubt Russia would ever dare challenging USA.
Russia only has about a tenth the military, economic and industrial power USA has.
Who fighting who?
Iran alone fighting multiple powers, that each are more powerful than Iran by themselves.
@madmadbunny@lemmy.ca vs your mum
Yep, that indeed looks like we are heading towards a world war.
Thanks for clearing up the statement by MadMadBunny, and prove the stupidity of it. 🤣
If you are housing US or Israel military you are part of the attack. It’s as simple as that.
Sadly the whole of the EU is complicit then. We all depends on US protection.
Protection from who?! We were well on the way to normalizing things with Russia since the early 00s, and then the Burgers couped Ukraine and fucked with the pipeline. China has never shown any aggression, they’re the world’s manufacturers so business is good for them, and countries like Pakistan, India, Iran and NK have nothing to do with Europe geopolitically speaking.
So, again, who do you think Burgerland is “protecting” us from? Nah, man, we’re there with them as sidekicks when it’s time to murder and pillage, and we get the scraps (well, our aristocrats, mostly).
Then kick them out of your countries. Leave NATO.
If you’re a human, I blame your species for this.
- every non-human species
Every non-human species is speciesist!?
Did anyone here actually read what he said, or just reading the headline and jumping to their own conclusion that the UK is joining in on the attacks?
Is there really an applicable difference between joining in on the attack and defending the person doing the attacking? That’s like holding someone’s hands behind their back while someone else punches them. For all intents and purposes you are part of the attack.
It doesn’t say the UK is defending Israel, it says defending allies.
Defending Bahrain or Jordan from incoming missiles is completely different to attacking Iran.
We are absolutely not defending the US. Think about it. Why would the world’s largest military need the UK to defend them?
The UK is stopping Iran firing missiles are countries that aren’t involved.
The bully rarely needs the lackey to hold the victim’s arms. But the lackey knows its the best way to keep the bully from turning on them.
Also who are these innocent countries?
The US turned on us a long time ago. Our PM has been very clear that the attack on Iran is not legal.
Iran has already launched a missile towards Cyprus. Tell me, how were they involved?
Tell that to Starmer because he certainly doesn’t act like it.
Why bring up Cyprus? I thought we were talking of innocent countries.
Have you read any of your comments?
Reading the article, we didn’t on reddit and we ain’t gonna start now!
You’ve still not managed to state now we are defending the US. We are defending ourselves.
WTF
The EU’s response has been shameful, but at least it hasn’t put us on the side of the aggressors
The imperial dog is out for its masters
