He says other nations will have to guard and police the Strait of Hormuz as necessary, after his attacks on the country prompted Iran to target vessels in the crucial world shipping lane. Mark Stone analyses the Truth Social post.

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    Imagine if Iran had allied with ISIS, killed the US President and bombed several US schools, then a couple of weeks later Iran’s leader goes “anyway, we are winding down this war. It is someone else’s problem now.”

    That’s not how war works.

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    They can start all the wars they want, tell me aliens exist, send out checks, it doesn’t matter. I’ll never shut the fuck up about Epstein and these pedos.

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    Even if the US retreats I hope Iran keeps that strait closed and eventually collapses all those gulf pedo-slave states.

    There has to be a price for collaborating with Americans and Israelis. If you want oil and be a US ally then you’ll have to rely on the US to share it’s own oil with you.

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        Well closed in the sense that it’s strictly controlled. Iran can rebuild by charging obscene amounts for the pleasure of trading in it’s gulf.

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      It would be in Iran’s interest to evict the United States from the gulf permanently; the punishment the Iranians must inflict should be severe enough that the US and Israel never again try to initiate an attack like this.

      Thing is, can Iran understand this? In the past, their reaction against American aggression has been pretty tepid. That been said, the new Ayatollah has basically seen his family be decimated in a couple of weeks, so his response may be different this time around.

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        Yes, Iran understands this. Iran is in full, single-minded cancer removal mode. You beat cancer or you die.

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    Retreating. The word he is looking for is ‘retreat’. Also known sometimes as ‘surrender’.

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    Trump expects the world to go to war with Iran. What will actually happen is that the world will re-establish diplomacy with Iran and offer sanctions relief to end the blockade.

    Without war reparations, American ships will forever be barred from sailing the strait, and Gulf states will likely start distancing themselves from the US and re-assess hosting American bases and troops.

    Trump’s victory looks an awful lot like a strategic defeat that sees the US pull out of the Middle East and leave Iran in a more powerful position then before.

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      It also undermines the entire petrodollar/Bretton Woods system that gives the almighty US dollar its power. This will be a big win for China, when countries start trading in their USD for Yuan buy oil.

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    Trump wont be happy when the “other nations” solve the problem by simply making deals with Iran

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        Euros

        Don’t see why they’d make an exception for them. Europe in general supported the strikes on Iran.

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          Supported “in general”?

          Also Iran hates the US specifically, anything that will hurt them in the long term is a good idea in their book

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            Supported “in general”?

            Spain and Ireland have been pretty vocal against the war in Iran, but the rest supported it more or less clearly.

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              Finland didn’t, Sweden didn’t. Poland told Donald to pound sand

              I kinda want a source for this “more or less clearly”

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                I kinda want a source for this “more or less clearly”

                In politics, no outright opposition is tacit approval.

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    Hey, if he pulls the military back out from the Middle East, he can take credit for ending another war that he obviously won single-handedly. Plus he can get another Nobel Prize…

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      for you it was the Straight of Hormuz. But, for me, it was a Tuesday.

      – Donnie “shits-his-pants” Trump

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    So running away and leaving the mess for his victims to clean up. Much like he probably did to the children he raped.

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    If you’re iran, what’s stopping you from charging a toll for anyone using the strait?

    Oh, you want your oil tanker to leave the gulf? That’ll be one million dollars.

    Make an exemption for oil traded in non-usd for maximum fun.

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      If you’re iran, what’s stopping you from charging a toll for anyone using the strait?

      Literally nothing. Trump proved time and time again that you can be the most brazen scumbag on the planet and suffer no consequences.

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      Basically incompetence. Iran (and Houtis) have been hitting ships they clearly were not supposed to hit. It is not necessarily easy to figure out which ship is which. So even ships that are allowed by Iran are scared of crossing rn. Also, mines don’t discriminate.

      UPDATE: Iran started doing this. After a ship pays the toll, Iran is forcing ships to first sail close to the shore into Iranian territorial waters to identify them more easily, mitigating the issue mentioned by me. Even so, wery few ships so far are willing to trust the Iranians and pay the toll.

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      Oh, you want your oil tanker to leave the gulf? That’ll be one million dollars.

      It’d be a way to pay for reparations, at the expense of some diplomacy.

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      This is current state of shipping in SoH. Everyone who goes through has some deal with Iran to pass safely. Iran has offered an “Islamic assembly” (UN/NATO like) peace deal for neighbours. Backup plan if GCC does not ally with Iran is to keep the toll system.

      Oh, you want your oil tanker to leave the gulf? That’ll be one million dollars.

      One ship reportedly paid Iran $BritishPounds2B to go through. $ and Euro are worthless to Iran because of corrupt banking system. All payments in CNY already.

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        If youre ona phone keyboard holding “$” should give you other currency symbol options. £, €, ₩ etc. Otherwise the usual syntax to denote pounds is to leave off the symbol and append GBP. Eg £2B or 2B GBP are easier to read and easier to type.