You are still lying. Not only that, you edited your comment. There was NO source, no article. Now there is and I asked you about that. Since you edited it, of course I coudlnt say anything more about it then asking for a source because I want to know more about that.

You claimed this is just triage, and logical. Absolutely not. I said I know that a selection is done in very serious situations, called triage and said how it works. And also that a triage is a logical thing to do. You can read it.

Triage is treating a more seriously ill person before a less seriously ill person as the more seriously ill person is in more urgent need of treatment.

This is triage as well. Also the question who should be treated in catastrophic situation if there are not enough resources. You can’t be that in denial and ignore history. Your dictionary says the right thing, however it is more. And I still mentioned it, because it is the only situation I know where decisions, who should treated and who not, can be made.

I have clearly explained that people with disabilities such as learning difficulties, who stood just as much chance of survival as non-disabled people, were refused treatment and left to die just because they had learning difficulties.

I wanted to read about that, could not find anything. And then later you just edit your comment and paste it into.

You keep saying “if not enough doctors were available,” firstly nowhere did I say that not enough doctors were available.

You said that it would be nazi eugenics if a doctor would decide who should be treated, if resources are few. I quoted and explained why its not nazi eugenic shit. But it had clearly in that point nothing to do about corona and the treatment of disabled people.

Secondly even if not enough doctors were available, deciding to refuse treatment to a person because they are disabled is still eugenics, and as stated in the article, actually illegal.

Of course this would be eugenics. I never said anything else. I talked about treatment decisions made in war zones and catastrophes, because you said, that to decide itself is eugenic stuff.

You are not arguing in good faith

You are very frustrated and say reactionary things like human nature, animal nature, Sparta and the inherent hatred against disabled people in humanity. Your experience doesn’t mean that you won’t receive critics for such takes. Of course it would be good faith if one would simply say :“You are right, they want to kill us tomorrow, its their nature”.

Being in denial about triage is however something special.

you’re adding things that aren’t there

Which?

And you claiming to be disabled doesn’t atually absolve you of anything you’ve said.

Oh oh, I am only claiming it now. Right, no disabled person would disagree with you. My words however are the product of my human nature I guess, I didn’t overcame the animal part in me. So you can’t be mad at me, no matter how much you fail in reading. For real, stop behaving shitty. Lying, then editing your comment to add an article only to claim then, that I apparently think that I am fine with the dead of disabled people. How shameful.

So I am not answering any more.

That’s fine and OK. More important is, that people reading this will at least see, that this liberal reactionary stuff like “human nature”, " Some humans didn’t overcome animal nature", “Humans have inherent malice against disabled people” is not simply accepted but will get rejected. Every time I read how human nature is the reason for something, than I will comment.

Edit:

This is how you can edit comments. Write, that you edited. However I had enough experience with Reddit, where users did the same thing. The most annoying was a dude who edited it several times. Every time in a way, that made me look like some evil communist trying to eat children. I really really should start taking screenshots.

I am and have worked in and adjacent to health off and on for over 30 years. They’re telling you the truth. Triage aims to make best use of limited resources, providers, medicines, bed spaces, medical devices, time, allocated funding. And I’ve been on the other end, the one who falls through the cracks. While there are exceptions, it is extremely difficult for those on either end, in any job. In the medical field, if you get too personally invested in care, you burn out quickly, and become unable to care for others or yourself. Health care workers already are forced to put themselves last, when there isn’t enough funding, not enough providers. Same with billing. Same with claims. We know it stinks, but if we didn’t do it from compassion, no one would. Every care provider would only be in it for money. We do learn to control our thoughts and feelings, so we don’t lose our mental and physical health, and the often meager means to support our own basic needs. Some may start the job cold and callous. Some get that way doing the best we can with the tools given us. The vast majority learn self-mastery to continue providing care for as many people as they can.

That’s why, even though I have lost my temper in my current situation, I chose and forced myself to quickly regain my composure. The agent and providers with whom I’m working have been wonderful, if not as either knowledgeable, or having access to the best tools for whatever reason, or some combination thereof.

I have worked with providers who did have and simply didn’t care (and I’m not privy to the cause), and felt the seething resentment on behalf of those in my care. I’ve lost jobs over it, so those who cared less and entered the field because they needed a job and it was the most expedient route. I’ve been visciously physically and verbally assaulted while providing the best care I could, and I’ve injured myself doing too much. And who benefitted from it? Neither patient, care provider, orderly, billing specialist, claims representative. The BoD and majority shareholders, and crooked politicians did (and here I will say even some politicians care, but are constrained by law, unknowledgeable fellow politicians, or greedy ones, or even their own inability to comprehend the vast scope of the entire issue).

And to be frank, you don’t have full comprehension of the issues, either. You fully comprehend your personal perspective, which also lacks a full and clear comprehension of the vast scope of the who l entire issue. I don’t either. Doctors with 50 years experience don’t. Those who have a fuller comprehension have worked multiple roles in the industry, moving from one to another, in various roles in various fields, in various practices. And even then, the ability to grasp a full, complete picture is elusive, let alone full comprehension, because science, knowledge, technology, funding is ever-changing, every moment of every day.